Help identifying suspension set up please

[ted698]

I wonder if that is a later Brazilian front beam??? with the actuator rod and (badly) welded booster bracket...

I Dunno - just shooting in the breeze.....

[karl h]

i allready thought it was rhd
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[shiggi10]

[shiggi10]

Its just dawned on me what the weird rotating bar welded to the front beam is…. Connects the brake pedal to the, now removed, brake booster/ servo

[shiggi10]

[shiggi10]

Great info - thanks

[velvetgreen]

[karl h]

as of the washers: the upper bolt has one assymetric washer, the lower one on the pic doesnt. there should be 8, one for each bolt
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[shiggi10]

I drove it for the first time today- truley terrible. I know they wander but this was heading significantly left or right with the steering straight ahead and no wind etc

I was aware the previous owner was concerned and had stopped driving it.

Bear in mind I bought it knowing it needed work and undriven

Rear toe looks significantly positive and tyres hot on inside edge
Front made a mess of a gravel drive and tyre edges are gone.
Steering very notchy and drag link has a huge amount of play as does the steering box

So plan is to

Front
Pull and probably replace front beam as its a mess- double adjuster, brake booster std width
Rebuild and replace all moving parts
Rebuild steering box

Rear
Replace all wearing parts and cvs
Change spring plates for dropped / adjustable plates and get the toe in spec

Open to further ideas and thanks for the advice

[shiggi10]

[shiggi10]

[shiggi10]

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[velvetgreen]

where are all the missing washers on the beam bolts and in their proper orientation?

[karl h]

for the rear brackets to fit outside of the chassis rails the rear IRS arms have to be modified, or they would push out the brake drums a good 2"
no rim would fit without cutting the wheelarches (and you would need 2" longer irs axels)
sorry for the multiple posts
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[karl h]

front calippers look like my non turbo 944
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[karl h]

i cant see an adjuster or welds for a cut-and-turn on the front beam, so if it is lowered it seems to have dropped spindles
the welded on front bracket is a mistery. i meant that the actual rollbar is missing and just the brackets are still there (hope thaqt makes sense)
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[shiggi10]

Hi Karl,

Great build thread! Have read a bit, will read some more

Great info thanks!
Front-
Yes will look to use the booster, once it is welded on properly!
Further pics of the rotating bar ( in a different position) its not a roll bar / ARB but looks more like a cable actuator
No beam adjusters on the rear, but look to have been cut and rotated.
Maybe these are dropped spindles? No idea how to spot them

Rear
I can’t see any cuts to the motor mount but the cradle has been trimmed

[karl h]

there seems to be an unused brake booster adapter welded to the beam.
for improoved braking, mount one
it seems the center beam has been cut/turned/welded to lower it, the bumpstops are cut off. is there an adjuster on the rear side of the beam?
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[karl h]

the front is a porsche 911/944 hub, it fits the spindles
the beam seems to be early bay, you can see the balljoints
the bar seems to be there to hold a rollbar?
the rear arms are definitely early bay due to the angle of the inner bolts
a pic from further away would help (like on a hoist)
for fitting these arms you normally have to modify the chassis rails, but these seem to be suspended out wards. i have the same setup in my panel, there are pics in my buildthread.
these are custom shouckmounts in the rear split/bay shouckmounts are not compatible, the empty one is the stock split upper mount
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