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airschooled
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:11 am Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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| Wildthings wrote: |
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Do you have a local dry ice blasting business?
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I was thinking the bed liner might just flake off on a 10°F winter's day. |
I remove tarboard/sitcky insulation sheets with speckled dry ice, but that's easy on the floors of bugs, rear cargo areas, etc. I don't think it would be as useful for a thin paint-like product on a vertical surface.
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:00 am Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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| airschooled wrote: |
Do you have a local dry ice blasting business?
Robbie |
I was thinking the bed liner might just flake off on a 10°F winter's day. |
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type241
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:37 am Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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I use a heat gun and NEW paint scraper or wood chisel(no nicks in blade). It will turn bondo and paint soft, then it just scrapes off. Keep the heat moving around, heat gun in one hand heating and scraping with the other. Goes pretty quick and no dust.
I just stripped a vintage wood door of 6 layers of paint with heat and scraper. First time on wood and it worked great. |
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airschooled
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jtauxe 
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:30 am Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| how much are you willing to spend? serious question. 100 bux? 1,000? |
For the purposes of exploring the options, what would you suggest if I were to spend $100?
How about $1000?
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aeromech
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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I bought a needle scaler last year for the first time and I did a really ugly bus engine compartment. It worked great. That said, I did leave craters in the moderately strong steel that makes up the engine compartment
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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| jtauxe wrote: |
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| ...how much are you willing to spend to remove it? That will depend on my next statement. |
OK. I'll bite. What is your next statement? |
how much are you willing to spend? serious question. 100 bux? 1,000?
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my59
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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You might look at peel away by Dumond. They make a variety of paint stripping products, including some for urethane based paints. It depends on what the bedliner was made with.
Ive used their peel away 1 for removing old lead based oil paint, but they have other formulations.
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jitbba
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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Back in my bodyshop days, this was the best method to not distort the sheetmetal. Heat it up just enough to NOT be gummy, then it pried off relatively easy. Still labor intensive though.
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jtauxe
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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| I'd avoid the needle scaler on the gates, it could distort the thin metal and gates are hard enough to get straight as it is. |
Well, they're not very straight as it is. But point taken.
How about the resulting pitted surface for paintability?
I have some other metal that I will experiment with in the short term.
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| Heat gun and scraper to use as a spatula |
I'll be trying this soon. Have you done it yourself?
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| ...how much are you willing to spend to remove it? That will depend on my next statement. |
OK. I'll bite. What is your next statement?
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jitbba
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:05 am Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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Heat gun and scraper to use as a spatula
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:22 am Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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I'd avoid the needle scaler on the gates, it could distort the thin metal and gates are hard enough to get straight as it is.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: removing old bed liner |
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you know, you gave me a ton of shit years ago about a comment I made and I'd much rather watch you suffer thru trying to remove it, but one thing we do have in common is hatred for spray on bedliner.
That said, how much are you willing to spend to remove it? That will depend on my next statement.
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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jtauxe
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:55 pm Post subject: removing old bed liner |
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The previous owner sprayed bed liner on the bed and inner side of the gates on my 1975 pickup. The black material is now dry and flaky, though stubborn in spots. Rust is working beneath it. I hate this stuff. I want to remove it all and repaint the bed properly.
I've tried aircraft paint thinner (works, but is messy and tedious), wirewheel on a grinder (effective but tedious), scraping (not effective), and finally a needle gun, aka a pneumatic scaler. We used these at sea to refinish ships. Noisy as all get out, and lots of vibration, and requiring a good compressor, but very effective, especially in the hard-to-get-to corners of the gates. Also tedious, of course. All methods are going to be tedious. 
So before I continue with the needle gun approach, I have concerns about the finely-pecked surface that it leaves. Is this something to be concerned about?
I started a thread about it on the Body/Paint forum, with pictures, but it has attracted no responses.
PLEASE FOLLOW UP WITH RESPONSES IN THAT FORUM, so that I am not guilty of reposting the same thing in different places. Everett, feel free to lock this post in order to encourage people to go there. 
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10405818
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