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VeeDubn Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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| pbrown wrote: |
We made it home thanks to a truck and trailer from U-Haul. Now the transaxle build starts.
Thanks All, |
Good deal! Thank you for the update, and happy you made it home safe and sound. |
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pbrown Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2008 Posts: 526 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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We made it home thanks to a truck and trailer from U-Haul. Now the transaxle build starts.
Thanks All, _________________ Patrick Brown
1986 Westy Syncro EJ25
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bobhill8  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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I have used that exact UHaul trailer to haul two different westys. They ride smooth and easy. You won't have any issues with normal driving. _________________ 1986 Westy
1971 Squareback |
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vanis13 Samba Member

Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 4579 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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| .....Alternately, you can get the Harbor Freight tow bar attached easily and flat tow the van. Saves you the trailer cost (you still need the truck) and you get to have the tow bar for future.... |
It's a Syncro - you definitely don't want to flat tow unless you remove the driveshaft, and with a dodgy gearbox I wouldn't take the risk anyway.
Better off using the trailer. |
Good point, I missed the syncro part... A syncro I would definitely put on a trailer for several reasons. _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
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MsTaboo  Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4610 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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| vanis13 wrote: |
| .....Alternately, you can get the Harbor Freight tow bar attached easily and flat tow the van. Saves you the trailer cost (you still need the truck) and you get to have the tow bar for future.... |
It's a Syncro - you definitely don't want to flat tow unless you remove the driveshaft, and with a dodgy gearbox I wouldn't take the risk anyway.
Better off using the trailer. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5888 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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the trailer likely has inertia brakes but if they are electric and the truck does not have a controller, the Bluetooth brake controllers do work if you have the round 7 pin RV light socket vs installing a controller. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 19030 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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| I had a wreck flat towing a VW scirocco. Hit a detour on new pavement in the rain. It basically jackknifed and I was looking the direction I was coming from. Tow bar looked like a pretzel. The Scirocco ended up against the side of the tow vehicle. Freak alignment of bad luck. Had nightmares for 6 months. That’s why I own a car trailer with brakes. |
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Sodo Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 10769 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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Second time towing is better than first time towing.
Genuine expertise is better than trying to read internet suggestions.
With luck your U-haul technician will be experienced, and not a ‘compliance hire’. Even so, there’s not much experience available anymore.
Front trailer axle at center of the van assures that it has tongue weight.
The truck is empty, so exceeding 10% tongue weight is desirable, to load the rear axle even heavier.
Your biggest concern will be downhills. If you have any trouble on a downhill, move van farther forward.
I highly doubt (all the way) forward is any problem, it might be the simplest answer. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, NEW oil rings (!) 2Peloquins, 3knobs, SyncroShop pressure-oiled pinion-bearing & GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox.
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered original gearbox
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dobryan  Samba Member

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vanis13 Samba Member

Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 4579 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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The trailer can be nice.
Alternately, you can get the Harbor Freight tow bar attached easily and flat tow the van. Saves you the trailer cost (you still need the truck) and you get to have the tow bar for future.
I did this exact thing from exactly SLC home to Albuquerque.takimg 4 days camping along the way.
I felt like an RVr towing a popup ;-p _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 19030 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:46 am Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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I haven’t towed with a U-Haul trailer, but have a 2 axle car trailer. I have towed a Vanagon face first. But, it is more important to know the tongue weight and the limit of the tow vehicle. That determines the best overall balance.
You’re probably concerned about the trailer fishtailing on you. And yes, to light a tongue weight contributes to that. |
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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With a Uhaul system load it front facing. Those are nice rigs and tow well. Keep it at 60 mph , even though it feels like it isn’t there _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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pbrown Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2008 Posts: 526 Location: Seattle, WA
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 19030 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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Sounds prudent. A lot of the clutch advice was likely wishful thinking. Part of traveling in an old VW is learning to listen to them. They are communicating all the time.
I’m always interested in the killer stereos some install. I don’t understand how they can blast music and listen to the van communicating. I have a stereo but never use it underway and when camped, on 1 so as not disturb others.
Sorry your trip got shortened. Good news is you have a story out of it. While uneventful trips are hard to recall, you never forget a breakdown. |
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pbrown Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2008 Posts: 526 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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We made it back to SLC. Transaxle is bad. We’ll be renting a U-Haul trailer and truck and heading back to Seattle in the morning.
New symptoms- popping out of 4th gear on highway. Trouble getting to reverse.
_________________ Patrick Brown
1986 Westy Syncro EJ25
Flickr --> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmQNUXEF
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pbrown Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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We’re making adjustments to our schedule so that we can be in Salt Lake City on Thursday.
VW Upfitters is going to take a look.
https://www.vw-upfitters.com/ _________________ Patrick Brown
1986 Westy Syncro EJ25
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AndyBees Samba Member

Joined: January 31, 2008 Posts: 2681 Location: Southeast Kentucky
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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Besides the OE springs on the Clutch and Brake pedals, I added an extra spring on both pedals for my conversion. Maybe I should have made that clear.
I removed the entire assembly, cleaned, polished, and lubed all moving and stationary parts due to not rebounding adequately for the sensitive Clutch and Brake Switches needed for the Cruise Control of the TDI conversion. Additional springs did help. _________________ '84 Vanagon Tin-top, ALH TDI, two trips to Alaska, 2014 & 16. 1989 Tin-top unmolested.
1983 Air-cool, 225k miles, 180k miles mine, seven trips to Alaska from 1986 thru 2003. 1975 Bay hopeful. |
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MarkWard Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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| My point was it easy to loose the pedal and can be frustrating to get it back when you haven’t done one before. |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 10455 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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AndyBees Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah |
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Yeah, Mark my '84 has an extra spring on it. I installed it when doing the conversion project to make sure the clutch switch consistently worked properly per adjustment (cruise control circuit). (Brake pedal too)
We spent a lot of time trying to bleed the air out. I finally determined that it was sucking air on the rebound. Maybe the extra spring contributed to that scenario.
At home, in my garage, I use a power bleeder.
Edited for clarification. _________________ '84 Vanagon Tin-top, ALH TDI, two trips to Alaska, 2014 & 16. 1989 Tin-top unmolested.
1983 Air-cool, 225k miles, 180k miles mine, seven trips to Alaska from 1986 thru 2003. 1975 Bay hopeful.
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