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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

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We made it home thanks to a truck and trailer from U-Haul. Now the transaxle build starts.

Thanks All,


Good deal! Thank you for the update, and happy you made it home safe and sound.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

We made it home thanks to a truck and trailer from U-Haul. Now the transaxle build starts.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

I have used that exact UHaul trailer to haul two different westys. They ride smooth and easy. You won't have any issues with normal driving.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

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.....Alternately, you can get the Harbor Freight tow bar attached easily and flat tow the van. Saves you the trailer cost (you still need the truck) and you get to have the tow bar for future....

It's a Syncro - you definitely don't want to flat tow unless you remove the driveshaft, and with a dodgy gearbox I wouldn't take the risk anyway.
Better off using the trailer.


Good point, I missed the syncro part... A syncro I would definitely put on a trailer for several reasons.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

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.....Alternately, you can get the Harbor Freight tow bar attached easily and flat tow the van. Saves you the trailer cost (you still need the truck) and you get to have the tow bar for future....

It's a Syncro - you definitely don't want to flat tow unless you remove the driveshaft, and with a dodgy gearbox I wouldn't take the risk anyway.
Better off using the trailer.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

the trailer likely has inertia brakes but if they are electric and the truck does not have a controller, the Bluetooth brake controllers do work if you have the round 7 pin RV light socket vs installing a controller.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

I had a wreck flat towing a VW scirocco. Hit a detour on new pavement in the rain. It basically jackknifed and I was looking the direction I was coming from. Tow bar looked like a pretzel. The Scirocco ended up against the side of the tow vehicle. Freak alignment of bad luck. Had nightmares for 6 months. That’s why I own a car trailer with brakes.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

Second time towing is better than first time towing.
Genuine expertise is better than trying to read internet suggestions.

With luck your U-haul technician will be experienced, and not a ‘compliance hire’. Even so, there’s not much experience available anymore.

Front trailer axle at center of the van assures that it has tongue weight.
The truck is empty, so exceeding 10% tongue weight is desirable, to load the rear axle even heavier.

Your biggest concern will be downhills. If you have any trouble on a downhill, move van farther forward.

I highly doubt (all the way) forward is any problem, it might be the simplest answer.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

FWIW, The Vanagon is almost 50/50 weight distribution unless you have a lot of gear hanging off the back.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

The trailer can be nice.

Alternately, you can get the Harbor Freight tow bar attached easily and flat tow the van. Saves you the trailer cost (you still need the truck) and you get to have the tow bar for future.

I did this exact thing from exactly SLC home to Albuquerque.takimg 4 days camping along the way.

I felt like an RVr towing a popup ;-p
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

I haven’t towed with a U-Haul trailer, but have a 2 axle car trailer. I have towed a Vanagon face first. But, it is more important to know the tongue weight and the limit of the tow vehicle. That determines the best overall balance.

You’re probably concerned about the trailer fishtailing on you. And yes, to light a tongue weight contributes to that.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

pbrown wrote:
We’re renting this trailer.

https://www.uhaul.com/Trailers/Auto-Transport-Rental/AT/

Should I load the van on back first? I’m concerned about keeping the weight to the front of the trailer.


With a Uhaul system load it front facing. Those are nice rigs and tow well. Keep it at 60 mph , even though it feels like it isn’t there
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

We’re renting this trailer.

https://www.uhaul.com/Trailers/Auto-Transport-Rental/AT/

Should I load the van on back first? I’m concerned about keeping the weight to the front of the trailer.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

Sounds prudent. A lot of the clutch advice was likely wishful thinking. Part of traveling in an old VW is learning to listen to them. They are communicating all the time.

I’m always interested in the killer stereos some install. I don’t understand how they can blast music and listen to the van communicating. I have a stereo but never use it underway and when camped, on 1 so as not disturb others.

Sorry your trip got shortened. Good news is you have a story out of it. While uneventful trips are hard to recall, you never forget a breakdown.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

We made it back to SLC. Transaxle is bad. We’ll be renting a U-Haul trailer and truck and heading back to Seattle in the morning.

New symptoms- popping out of 4th gear on highway. Trouble getting to reverse.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

We’re making adjustments to our schedule so that we can be in Salt Lake City on Thursday.

VW Upfitters is going to take a look.

https://www.vw-upfitters.com/
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

Besides the OE springs on the Clutch and Brake pedals, I added an extra spring on both pedals for my conversion. Maybe I should have made that clear.

I removed the entire assembly, cleaned, polished, and lubed all moving and stationary parts due to not rebounding adequately for the sensitive Clutch and Brake Switches needed for the Cruise Control of the TDI conversion. Additional springs did help.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

My point was it easy to loose the pedal and can be frustrating to get it back when you haven’t done one before.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible transaxle issues in Southern Utah Reply with quote

Yeah, Mark my '84 has an extra spring on it. I installed it when doing the conversion project to make sure the clutch switch consistently worked properly per adjustment (cruise control circuit). (Brake pedal too)

We spent a lot of time trying to bleed the air out. I finally determined that it was sucking air on the rebound. Maybe the extra spring contributed to that scenario.

At home, in my garage, I use a power bleeder.

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