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sixtyonecrew
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 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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You nailed it! That’s the plan brother! I agree 100%. Thanks for your input!
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OTO X58
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| Let's vote! Should I keep the roof original patina with the original dove blue or sand it down and paint it the wanabe dove blue L31 of today to match the rest of the Binz? |
I love original paint and I love patina. I'd be very tempted to keep that roof as-is after some cleanup with CLR/oven cleaner. If you paint the rest of the bus in something like a 70% or 80% gloss finish, which is closer to an original finish, I think the patina roof could look really good.
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:39 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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pondoras box
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 7:21 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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I don’t want to hijack your story here. PM sent though. I told the story up to how Bobo lead me to Kelly and your bus up to when I lost track of where it went.
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1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
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1957 Oval ragtop
1960 hardtop
1964 hardtop
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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That's interesting! How did you get your 23 window (Bobo) back after it got stolen? How did it lead you to meet Kelly Brown? I had a 63 VW Bug stolen 30 years ago and never saw it again...
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pondoras box
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 6:55 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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I bet you could sell “Bobo” for a pretty penny!?
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Well now that the Binz is at my mechanic’s shop for a new running gear install all I have to look at is my garage wall art!
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Hey it’s more of a Binz than I will ever own, plus it’ll be worth it when it’s done. |
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That Binz is WAY more rare than a 23, plus Bobo isn’t ever leaving again! I learned my lesson the hard way there. Oddly enough way back after Bobo was stolen it’s what led me to meeting Kelly Brown.
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1960 hardtop
1964 hardtop
1965 hardtop (Arschloch)
1973 standard bug (Dirty Gertie)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=804912
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion |
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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I bet you could sell “Bobo” for a pretty penny!?
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| sixtyonecrew wrote: |
Well now that the Binz is at my mechanic’s shop for a new running gear install all I have to look at is my garage wall art!
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Hey it’s more of a Binz than I will ever own, plus it’ll be worth it when it’s done. |
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pondoras box
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| sixtyonecrew wrote: |
Well now that the Binz is at my mechanic’s shop for a new running gear install all I have to look at is my garage wall art!
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Hey it’s more of a Binz than I will ever own, plus it’ll be worth it when it’s done.
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1960 hardtop
1964 hardtop
1965 hardtop (Arschloch)
1973 standard bug (Dirty Gertie)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=804912
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion |
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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Well now that the Binz is at my mechanic’s shop for a new running gear install all I have to look at is my garage wall art!
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70bus 
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:57 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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Earlier pics show dove blue under the black paint, but like my truck, here may be a lot of new panels that would make a patchwork. It is possible to sppt-match an aged paint and finish new panels with that mix and blend it all together. Definitely a skill... and iaint talking those 'patina' cars where someone applies 3 layers of paint and randomly uses a sander to make it look "cool." I've seen a few cars where you couldn't tell where the new paint was unless you looked very closely.
Next question would be - do you repaint the inside as well? I still vote for get it running now, drive it, worry about paint after. Don't want it to become one of those projects where chasing perfection means it never hits the road for years.
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looks like you ran out of money for your paint budget. |
Hey now - I resemble that remark.
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vwuberalles
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:24 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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If removing the gray to get back to the original paint on the rest of the truck isn't an option I'd just paint the whole thing in the correct original color. Just having a patina'd roof looks like you ran out of money for your paint budget.
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DanM
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 7:04 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| my vote: paint match the best spot of the roof and paint the whole truck. |
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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The truck looks great, such a big difference from when I saw it in person three months ago at the Treffen show in CA. |
Thank you Sir! I send it to my mechanic's shop on Wednesday to get the running gear installed! |
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70bus
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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third choice - paint the rest of bus to match top? Someday, maybe. For now, go drive it!
My personal view is that if you have original paint and aren't doing a total resto, keep the original as much as you can. My local shop can't stand that I won't repaint the whole truck to match the new metal/paint, so everyone has different opinions.
Paint's only original once, so be sure whatever you do it's well-thought. And whatever you do is ok - it's your truck!
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ronjonlasvegas
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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The truck looks great, such a big difference from when I saw it in person three months ago at the Treffen show in CA.
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| Let's vote! Should I keep the roof original patina with the original dove blue or sand it down and paint it the wanabe dove blue L31 of today to match the rest of the Binz? |
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 10:36 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 10:15 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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The Binz is starting to take shape!
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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So was it just Sweden that used wood inside the 3rd door panels or do yours have some in them as well?
Wrapping metal around wood frames was common earlier in century, but I haven't read all of the Binz pages yet to see if they just used brakes and stampers by the 50s. |
I didn’t find any wood inside my 3rd door panel. Just this interesting metal half panel that is unique to the Binz!
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70bus
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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So was it just Sweden that used wood inside the 3rd door panels or do yours have some in them as well?
Wrapping metal around wood frames was common earlier in century, but I haven't read all of the Binz pages yet to see if they just used brakes and stampers by the 50s.
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