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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Ignition point grease Reply with quote

Where can you buy the grease for the ignition points. The automotive chain stores don't carry it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regular wheel bearing grease will work. You only need a tiny bit. You do not need some special rocket science internet bullshit original German grease.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It needs to be a non-melting type of grease, napa sells it.
Of course bosch makes the best Wink
Finding it at your local parts store might be tough if you dont use the exact term "Distributor Cam Lube"
Most auto parts stores sell a generic store brand.


http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/product.php?productid=16866&cat=351&page=1
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spend the $10 and get the Bosch grease.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'correct' grease is a lot stickier than regular grease, to prevent it from flinging around and fouling things up. A tube of the Bosch stuff would last the typical VW guy a couple lifetimes.

Now the trick. You don't actually apply it to the lobed shaft in the distributor. You pack a little on the side of the rubbing block so that it only uses what it needs. Make sure you put it on the front side of the block so it acts like a 'plow' to keep the grease where it needs to be. If you put it on the trailing edge side, it will get flung around.

Not sure why Bosch points don't come with it, but when I buy the 'nice' points for $16 vs. the cheap ones for $6 at my local Napa for my Willys Jeep, it comes with a small 'pill' of grease for the rubbing block (The points themselves are much higher quality as well). Wish Bosch would do that, don't need a big damned tube of the stuff unless you're doing as many distributors as Glenn probably does. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably since the day they started using nylon for rubbing blocks and did away with the the old phenolic fiber blocks the powers that be decided dist cam grease was no longer a necessity...

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thread Revival.

I'm wondering if anyone in CANADA has available for sale a tube of the Bosch Ignition Points Grease -- Bosch Grease 225 ml. Tube 5 700 002 025 or 5-700-002-025-M114

At $25 per tube, Its not the cost of the tube but the cost of shipping from just about any other country that irks me.

CIP1.CA is out
Gernansupply.com is out
I don't think concept1.ca carries it.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mallory also makes a distributor grease. ACN carries it.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last big tube I purchased came from pelican parts. The Bosch grease is the proper grease for Bosch distributors. It really is a different animal.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave,

Thanks for that info.

ACN, Pelican, Oreily's, etc. I have great envy for American's access to 'the market'.

International shipping, Duty, Taxes, and the $ differntial are the bane of every Canadian's project dreams.

Shipping 1 tube of Bosch Grease costs as much as the grease itself; 2x that of the price of the Mallory grease.

Get my drift?

Hence I will ask again,

I'm wondering if anyone (corporate or personal) in CANADA has available for sale a tube of the Bosch Ignition Points Grease.

Other boards have recommended NAPA ML1 Dielectric Silicon Grease. I can find ML2 and ML3 amongst some other products on NAPAONLINE.ca (I Searched for 'grease' and then 'Dielectric Grease')

Any of those choices a reasonable replacement here in the Hinterland?

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Experiment with Napa's version of Syl-glide if you need something off the shelf in a pinch. Shipping can be a female dog
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A holdover from my motocross days: I use this grease on a lot of stuff, it's extra tacky, doesn't fling, and I have never seen it degrade, even under horrendous offroad conditions... Just a dab on the running block will do. Plus it's fairly cheap and a tub will last you a long while.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silicone grease (AKA dielectric grease) is also a good option. It is sticky and won't melt when heated -- viscosity of the regular grease is less resistant to high temps.
A thin layer because you won't want a splash of grease over your point contacts.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new points I have bought have all come with a small capsule of grease in the packaging box, just enough for one or two applications.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that is handy. As some have pointed out, a silicon grease is another option if you don't have it. Don't use wheel bearing grease, any petroleum based grease will burn when it gets into the points. Running even points with a nylon block dry will tend to burn it so it wears out ahead of time.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My replacement bosch points from CIP1.ca do not come with grease. Not sure if any retailer in Canada sends grease with their points.

Contacted Napa today and the parts person confirmed they do not carry Distributor Cam Lobe Grease.

They do carry the Permatex 67VR Dielectric Silicone.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dielectric grease isn't really a good lubricant. It is made to seal and protect electrical connections, and that is about it.

For the record, this is the capsule of grease that comes with my points. It is small and easy to miss, as you can see. Now days I don't get Bosch points. Never thought I would say this, but I haven't been very happy with Bosch ignition products as of late. Coils seam good, but points and wires...there is better out there unless you can dig up NOS parts from back in the day. Points I get are made by Wells vehicle electronics, and wires are AutoZone Duralast Gold which are made with German made Beru insulators/resistors. Beru was another OEM supplier for VW ignition parts. I like the Durralast Gold wires because the Beru plug ends still have the spark plug seal. Bosch ends haven't come with the spark plug seals for a number of years now.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, dielectric grease is probably not what you are looking for. I believe you still have Tandy stores over there? They used to sell a silicon-based grease in a silver tube (I think Super-Lube brand.)
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 800 km (500 MI) from the US border. in Edmonton, AB. a city with a greater population of 1 million. Cannot find the Bosch, Mallory or any other brand of points grease for sale in this town.

I'm ticked that I would end up paying $50 USD (+ duty) to purchase and ship across the border 1 tube of Bosch points grease.

But hey, we are on the great march against entropy right? Entropy wins in the end.

I'll probably ask some vw enthusiast neighbours if they have any points grease.

Thanks for the tip on Wells Vehicle Electronics brand of replacement parts, when next in the US, I'll be making a trip to the local AutoZone store.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought some multi-purpose silicone grease to use on plastic parts but it looks similar to the points grease and wont melt or run, temp range is from -20 - 400 f. I have a points lube made by lubriplate and I've had that little tube since the 70's, seems to last forever. Wouldn't bother me to use this silicone grease on the cam. Got it at a true value hardware store for $3.79 a couple years ago, dont understand anyone paying more than a few dollars to lube points cam?

I emailed the company and said; "Yes. It will work for that application." thats not to say its the better choice but its a choice like many other greases that will work well for the points cam / distributor cam.

1 1/2oz tube made by 'AGS Company'. cat. no. sg-2h.

I'd like to try that grease SingerDude linked to, lots of applications for that i'm sure, looks very similar to trailer wheel bearing grease?
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