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squaretobehip
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 Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:38 pm Post subject: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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I swear, this one will be a preservation. 
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Erik G
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Rome
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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| Lovely! Do you know any of its original history, of how it came to California? Looks like it is totally original and complete. |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:16 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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This should be a good one to watch. Looks fairly clean and unmolested. 
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ALLWAGONS
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:15 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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Nice find Mike. Where did it come from? History of the car please.
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Critter1
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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Progress pics! 
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squaretobehip
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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| Progress pics! |
Would a regular ol' post suffice?
A couple years ago, ErikG hit me up with a peculiar message. It was something like, "Hey. You live in Santa Clara, right?" I knew right away that it was car related. He told me about an early Squareback that had popped up at a consignment dealership right near my house, but also noted that the listing had gone dark. It had only been up for a few hours. We found some pictures and my interest was peaked. He asked me to scope it out so I called the dealership but they were closed. I drove by and peaked through the fence, but there was no early Squareback. I emailed the dealership at 10:30PM and got an answer at 11:30PM...
"Car is sold, sorry."
Bummer. And it was cheap too. Double bummer. Long story short, it popped up a few weeks ago for sale. I still had that itch so I went to check it out. Here are those pictures:
The Good:
It's a very dry car. It does not have the typical rust that most do.
It's pretty straight. There are some issues, but nothing super major.
The patina matches. A lot of times, "patina" cars have that one random fender, or the rear decklid doesn't quite match. I can't do that kind of patina.
It runs. It stops.
The Bad:
It looks like it was curbed at some point.
The under dash, inner fender wells, lower doors, etc. are sprayed black. I think it's spray on POR15 as the pan has the same coating. There's tons of overspray where I wish there wasn't.
It has some "character."
The engine is a later case and missing most of the early bits besides the single carb setup. It seems like they did what they could to keep it on the road. I can appreciate that. It was switched over to 12V, which I'm not mad at. It has disc brakes, which is something I would have done myself as I'm all for safety upgrades. I saw what I wanted to see and went home.
A couple weeks later, based on all of the info above and some other details, I made an offer hoping it would be refused and I'd get to stop day dreaming about this thing. Needless to say, I ended up with an early Squareback. 
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Critter1
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:13 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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Awesome, can’t wait to see this road warrior.
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:55 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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| squaretobehip wrote: |
I swear, this one will be a preservation.
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I've heard THAT one before!
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:58 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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Really nice survivor! My two cents:
Hide the overspray with careful matching paint.
Leave the external blemishes; yes, they add character! |
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EverettB
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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| squaretobehip wrote: |
A couple weeks later, based on all of the info above and some other details, I made an offer hoping it would be refused and I'd get to stop day dreaming about this thing. Needless to say, I ended up with an early Squareback. |
Don't you hate it when that happens? I don't know why I do that either. I ended up with a 2 car garage full of parts that I didn't need one time, and 3/4's of a 2 car garage full of parts the 2nd time I did that. That 2nd time all I really wanted was an engine, but ended up with 3 pickup trucks full of parts. It was a body shop guy cleaning out the building as he sold the building. Crazy how things work out sometimes. 
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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Erik G
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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Enjoying this since 63s are awesome.
I see it has 5 lug wheels so what disc brakes did they use?
66-up parts with adapters or ? |
and did the last guy add the discs or was it at the dealership with them?
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squaretobehip
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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| Erik G wrote: |
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Enjoying this since 63s are awesome.
I see it has 5 lug wheels so what disc brakes did they use?
66-up parts with adapters or ? |
and did the last guy add the discs or was it at the dealership with them? |
Not sure which kit they went with. Haven't dug into that yet. Also not sure of the who question. I have the brakes from the Notchback if I ever wanted to go back to stock-stock.
The AC Industries kit on the Notchback required some mods to the caliper to fit the early wheel. Curious to dig into this and see what they did. If I have to go the AC route again, I will do that.
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squaretobehip
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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Two weeks ago we picked it up and it was wearing this roof rack. I'm not a rack guy, so it's going to a buddy.
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squaretobehip
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:07 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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First look at the doors and what's going on behind the replacement lower panels.
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:01 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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| POR15 rust treatment? |
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squaretobehip
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:07 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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| KTPhil wrote: |
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I believe that's what it is.
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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| Hopefully clean underneath... to prevent recurrence, not to hide rust. |
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squaretobehip
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Pearl White Squareback Preservation |
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My posts are always picture heavy which leads to lots of scrolling. Sorry in advance.
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