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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:52 am    Post subject: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

Hi guys, I'm installing some sound deadening in my 85 Vanagon and I just realized there's an air vent on the door however there doesn't seem to be any port coming from the front dashboard to feed air into the door? Is that sliding vent useless? There seems to be a hole in the door that's supposed to pass the air into the bulkhead behind the cabinetry but again where does that airflow come from? Is this an unknown secret? (cue the spooky music)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

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there's an air vent on the door however there doesn't seem to be any port coming from the front dashboard to feed air into the door? Is that sliding vent useless? There seems to be a hole in the door that's supposed to pass the air into the bulkhead behind the cabinetry but again where does that airflow come from? Is this an unknown secret?


Nope; not a secret. It's your van's flow-through ventilation:
https://gowesty.com/blogs/article-library/ventilation-heat-and-a-c-in-the-vanagon-explained

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

The secret is that you can stow a full size umbrella in the door in that duct. Stash it in the passenger door so it can be accessed safely while on the side of the road.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

The sliding vent indeed works, a dusty drive on a dirt road will prove it.

The front of the door has an oval opening sealed with a rubber perimeter to keep dust out, and it’s mated to the painted framework forward of it.

The rear of the door has another oval opening that mates to the chassis just aft of the door, where it’s surrounded by a “brush” trim on the chassis to keep dust out.

From there, the air feeding all this goes straight up the pillar forward of the sliding door, and continues to the upper vents above the slider.

On Westys anyway, I think the airflow stops at the pillar on the driver’s side… I can’t speak to non-Westys, but imagine they have upper wall vents like the passenger side of Westys have.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

jimf909 wrote:
The secret is that you can stow a full size umbrella in the door in that duct. Stash it in the passenger door so it can be accessed safely while on the side of the road.


Careful on that tho, a big bump can jog that umbrella back into the B pillar and you can't open the door...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

Who needs an umbrella? Its just water.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

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Who needs an umbrella? Its just water.


This seems obvious to the point of absurdity, but you asked. I can't say I've ever 'needed' an umbrella, but I prefer having one when walking in the rain simply because I prefer to be less wet especially if it is cold out. It is just a matter of my own personal comfort. Remarkably similar are the reason I wear clothes, have a house, have a car, etc... The umbrella I usually carry in inclement weather also has a nice wooden knob for a handle and could serve double duty as a nice bludgeon if necessary.

I'm curious, what was the motivation for your post?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

?Waldo? wrote:
This is remarkably similar to the reason I wear clothes

And we all thank you.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

mrinnovation1 wrote:
Who needs an umbrella? Its just water.


Anyone walking in UV index >5
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

jimf909 wrote:
The secret is that you can stow a full size umbrella in the door in that duct. ...


It's where I keep my spare wipers blades. It rains so seldom that I don't replace them until they're really needed.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

OR,, the umbrella slides forward into the 'A' pillar, especially if the umbrella has a long(ish) point.


bobbyblack wrote:
jimf909 wrote:
The secret is that you can stow a full size umbrella in the door in that duct. Stash it in the passenger door so it can be accessed safely while on the side of the road.


Careful on that tho, a big bump can jog that umbrella back into the B pillar and you can't open the door...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

do.dah wrote:
OR,, the umbrella slides forward into the 'A' pillar, especially if the umbrella has a long(ish) point.


bobbyblack wrote:
jimf909 wrote:
The secret is that you can stow a full size umbrella in the door in that duct. Stash it in the passenger door so it can be accessed safely while on the side of the road.


Careful on that tho, a big bump can jog that umbrella back into the B pillar and you can't open the door...

-bobby


on mine, there is a plate that covers the A pillar. the speaker wires go through the plate.

the B pillar I have made a plate to cover it to avoid the umbrella sliding back.

.. I wonder what good storage could be in the B pillar through that hole!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

Ahwahnee wrote:
jimf909 wrote:
The secret is that you can stow a full size umbrella in the door in that duct. ...


It's where I keep my spare wipers blades. It rains so seldom that I don't replace them until they're really needed.


That is a GREAT idea on the blades!!!! Being from rarely-rainy NM my needs are similar to yours.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

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jakekoebrich wrote:
there's an air vent on the door however there doesn't seem to be any port coming from the front dashboard to feed air into the door? Is that sliding vent useless? There seems to be a hole in the door that's supposed to pass the air into the bulkhead behind the cabinetry but again where does that airflow come from? Is this an unknown secret?


Nope; not a secret. It's your van's flow-through ventilation:
https://gowesty.com/blogs/article-library/ventilation-heat-and-a-c-in-the-vanagon-explained

Wink


Ok, that's the answer I was hoping for. I knew about the passthru on the passenger side but I didn't know about the low pressure zones in the door jams and this drivers vent allows internal air out of the van. Good to know. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

?Waldo? wrote:
mrinnovation1 wrote:
Who needs an umbrella? Its just water.

I'm curious, what was the motivation for your post?

Remember, everybody’s at a different point on the sarcasm scale…no harm, no foul. Cool

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

BTW, where's the umbrella on an umbrella stroller?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

vanis13 wrote:
Ahwahnee wrote:
jimf909 wrote:
The secret is that you can stow a full size umbrella in the door in that duct. ...


It's where I keep my spare wipers blades. It rains so seldom that I don't replace them until they're really needed.


That is a GREAT idea on the blades!!!! Being from rarely-rainy NM my needs are similar to yours.


Best idea of the month.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

I’ve personally seen Julie Andrews’ Westy, so Jim’s is not a new idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

Perfect place for a pair of hiking poles...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2025 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Did I just discover one of Vanagon's unknown secrets? Reply with quote

I keep a zombie machete in there.....just in case!!
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