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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 9:13 pm    Post subject: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

I took out the shift rod to replace the coupler and shift rod bushing and figured I would pull the rod all the way out so I could clean it up and re grease it and found a hole in the middle ish of the rod and it looks like someone cut it. I've watched a few videos and it doesn't look like this hole is normally there. Is there a reason someone would have cut a hole like this and is it a reason to replace the rod with a new one? It's from a 1971 Superbeetle
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

You may be right that it was cut, but could it also have been worn through? It would be near where the e-brake pivot is. Is there something in the tunnel in the way?

It doesn't look too serious so I think it will be ok. Deburr the edges of that hole so it doesn't tear up the bushing when you put it back in.

If you want to replace it, you need to get a shift rod from a 68 to 72 Beetle, Super Beetle, or Karmann Ghia that has a manual trans. Not an autostick. The new ones offered for sale are too short for your car.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

Not normal. Might not be a bad idea to clean up the area around the hole and take it to a muffler shop and have them weld a piece of metal in there. Take it and grind the welds smooth and reinstall it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

Thank you both for your replies. I don't believe there is anything in the tunnel in the way, it shifted fine when the car was running, but I will double check tonight and make sure.

I had never thought about getting the hole fixed. I may try to tackle the patch myself as I have a mig welder and have been trying to do all the rust repair myself on the car. Do you see an issue with me using some scrap metal from previous patch pieces I have left over to patch the hole myself?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

Any scrap metal of similar gauge should work fine. Good that you can do it yourself. Good luck
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

From - although limited - experience, having a shift rod that is smooth and without any defects really helps the install through the bushing. So even a practice run, an original item from the classifieds vers in good condition (no rust, no kinks/bends etc.) is maybe hard to beat. Or make sure to grund it flush or even a little below surface.

PS; the bushing itself is important - search on the forum and you will find.

Good luck in any regards Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

Well I think I figured out what caused that hole. I measured where the hole is on the shift rod and then measured that out on the tunnel from the shifter and the spot is exactly where the bolt for the driver seat belt buckle bolts to the tunnel. I'm assuming that the bolt that was in there is too long and sticks out far enough inside the tunnel that it wore that hole through the rod over time. Honestly not sure if it was me or a previous owner that had put that bolt in there, but now I know the bolt that goes in there needs to be a shorter one. I still need to weld in a patch on the rod, but I feel much better knowing where the hole came from. Thanks to everyone for your input and help.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

Glad you found the source of the hole. Now you can fix it and move on to the next challenge in VW ownership.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

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Well I think I figured out what caused that hole. I measured where the hole is on the shift rod and then measured that out on the tunnel from the shifter and the spot is exactly where the bolt for the driver seat belt buckle bolts to the tunnel. I'm assuming that the bolt that was in there is too long and sticks out far enough inside the tunnel that it wore that hole through the rod over time. Honestly not sure if it was me or a previous owner that had put that bolt in there, but now I know the bolt that goes in there needs to be a shorter one. I still need to weld in a patch on the rod, but I feel much better knowing where the hole came from. Thanks to everyone for your input and help.


Make sure to get the right bolts - they are not metric as I have understood it. One only (?) applicatino of SAE threads on a German car.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

7/16" x 20 seat belt bolt
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

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Make sure to get the right bolts - they are not metric as I have understood it. One only (?) applicatino of SAE threads on a German car.


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7/16" x 20 seat belt bolt


Thanks! I never would have guessed those bolts are SAE instead of metric and thanks for the correct size
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

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Thanks! I never would have guessed those bolts are SAE instead of metric and thanks for the correct size

Some kind of "international agreement". Like spark plug threads are metric, and wheel diameters are SAE....
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

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orange crush71 wrote:
Thanks! I never would have guessed those bolts are SAE instead of metric and thanks for the correct size

Some kind of "international agreement". Like spark plug threads are metric, and wheel diameters are SAE....


VW Has NEVER used a SAE thread anywhere on there cars. It is just that a 7/16-20 is VERY close to the diameter and thread pitch. In reality, the bolt is a 11mm with a 1.25 pitch and not too many people carry that size bolt.

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Is it okay to use a 7/16-20 bolt for your seat belts - Yes. The 7/16 bolt is a hair smaller and the thread pitch is extremely close, so you can safely use it without damaging threads, yet retains the full holding power.

Just wanted to dispel another VW myth.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

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VW Has NEVER used a SAE thread anywhere on there cars. It is just that a 7/16-20 is VERY close to the diameter and thread pitch. In reality, the bolt is a 11mm with a 1.25 pitch and not too many people carry that size bolt.

Good luck finding a shoulder bolt with 11mm with a 1.25 pitch !!!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

Multi69s wrote:
Cusser wrote:
orange crush71 wrote:
Thanks! I never would have guessed those bolts are SAE instead of metric and thanks for the correct size

Some kind of "international agreement". Like spark plug threads are metric, and wheel diameters are SAE....


VW Has NEVER used a SAE thread anywhere on there cars. It is just that a 7/16-20 is VERY close to the diameter and thread pitch. In reality, the bolt is a 11mm with a 1.25 pitch and not too many people carry that size bolt.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Is it okay to use a 7/16-20 bolt for your seat belts - Yes. The 7/16 bolt is a hair smaller and the thread pitch is extremely close, so you can safely use it without damaging threads, yet retains the full holding power.

Just wanted to dispel another VW myth.
They had to confirm with U.S. import specs.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

See thread;

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154223
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Hole in Shift Rod, is this normal? Reply with quote

Multi69s wrote:
Cusser wrote:
orange crush71 wrote:
Thanks! I never would have guessed those bolts are SAE instead of metric and thanks for the correct size

Some kind of "international agreement". Like spark plug threads are metric, and wheel diameters are SAE....


VW Has NEVER used a SAE thread anywhere on there cars. It is just that a 7/16-20 is VERY close to the diameter and thread pitch. In reality, the bolt is a 11mm with a 1.25 pitch and not too many people carry that size bolt.

You're 100% wrong on this.
The US DOT regulations specify the thread you must use for seatbelts if you want to sell a car in the USA. That thread is NOT metric. Automakers have no choice in the matter.
So even though VW seatbelt bolts are 7/16" NF, they have a 17mm head!
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