AI Is Everywhere—Even in the Garage. Let’s Talk About It.

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[zerotofifty]

[shagginwagon83]

Yes zerotofifty is right.

AI isn't a cure for cancer, but it's revolutionizing early detection, personalized treatment, and drug discovery. While we're not there yet, AI is accelerating research and improving patient outcomes more than ever before.
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"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
Instagram: @joannthevan

[shagginwagon83]

AI/Vanagon query - help find a big brake kit for under $2000 for the early spindles.

ChatGPT now has a "Deep research" feature. It took over 10 minutes and referenced over 20 sources - including VanCafe, BusDepot, Samba, and Smallcar, c1p.

Anyhow, feel free to read it's response. you can view my whole query and interaction here.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67be842b-2750-8009-a3c9-d2094dc41cf8

Side note:
I have spent hours in the past two weeks looking into big brake kits for early Vanagons. The amount of information it was able to cover is impressive. I learned something new - that Ken at Vanagain used to offer South African brake kits!

It also confirmed what I was thinking: I should upgrade to the later model spindles and run with the Burley kit!
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"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
Instagram: @joannthevan

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Does chitGPT factor in the vendor who maybe helped you out in a pinch?

Or has proven utterly loyal and honest to you time after time after time?

Let’s throw all that out the window and let AI determine everyone’s future.
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1984 Westfailure/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans

"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere." — Colin Chapman

[skills@eurocarsplus]

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There’s always “Yeah, but what about…?” arguments with tech.

The problem here is we don’t know the problems. And while Humans are pretty dumb and selfish in such cases anyway, the risks here are infinite and there’ll be no turning back.

All I know is if we had kids, the last thing I’d be doing is promoting anything against their future, even if the odds of harming them was tiny. This is already way past that… at least, if paying attention and de-prioritizing self-interests.

Sorry, but looking like a half-assed tech trendsetter on a VW forum under the transparent guise of “VW content” is pretty weak.

Analytical Conclusion of It All in One Word?
DUH
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1984 Westfailure/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans

"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere." — Colin Chapman

[calvinater]

One word for you all, Ludite.
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"Albatross"!

[shagginwagon83]

[Abscate]

This is AI bot.

Correct spelling is Luddite.

Thank you for using me.
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[Shonandb]

You guys are hilarious. It must be another slow day on The Samba....

Here's a short read on AI for "the grumpy old men who like to yell at clouds", (quoting our moderator Everett) to argue about.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/humanity-may-achieve-singularity-within-133000881.html
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76 Westy with a 2.5L Subaru SOHC + Vanagon (010) Automatic Transaxle
Build & Trip Thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=758760
Previous 1973 Panel Bus:
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[Xevin]

[skills@eurocarsplus]

[KTPhil]

Yes, I agree. And the problem isn't just job displacement. It's customer service.

I have enough trouble dealing with customer service failures with people still in the loop. Remove people, use an AI bot, and there is no recourse when errors are made, or inappropriate process or criteria are imposed.

Not to be morbid or justify it, but do not be surprised when exasperated customers take extreme and violent measures like at the UHC executive. If the doorbell isn't answered, you have no choice but to break in. Or burn it down. Or at least, it will seem that way to abused and desperate people.

Companies will not use AI to improve service and come up with miracles. They will claim this to "sell it" to the public, but it simply isn't going to happen.

Instead, they will do their duty to their stockholders and reduce costs by putting AI in place of humans, with even more limited appeal processes than we have today.
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Current Fleet:
- '71 Fastback
- '69 Westfalia
Retired:
- '67 Beetle
- '65 Beetle (x2)
- '65 Bus
- '71 Squareback

[skills@eurocarsplus]

[EverettB]

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Skills and KTphil, Yeah, you get it.

True, Everett… we ain’t seen nothing yet.

I read the other day that there are 850 million rejected insurance claims in the US each year. While I struggle on that math — though maybe not as some bills can have a hundred lines to jerk around —whatever it is, it’s barbaric.

But at least it’s expensive.

[Who.Me?]

The customer service point is no different for AI than it is for current 'chatbots'. They work fine for basic problems.

Skill's 'solution' of yelling profanities at them to force them to escalate to a human if the problem is too complex for the chatbot sometimes works (they're supposedly programmed to detect when customers are angry and escalate).

I've also found just saying/typing 'I need to speak to a real person' works too.

The issue is when users aren't told that they're conversing with an AI. At least the EU has taken steps to address that through their 2024 AI Act which includes requirements for organisations to tell users that they're interacting with an AI.

In my opinion; as with most new technologies, proper regulation with real 'teeth' (i.e. punative fines for breaches) is the only real solution.
It inevitably takes a while for lawmakers to understand the potential for harm before appropriate regulation can be drawn up, but history shows that without it without it, greed and/or over-enthusiasm and/or a failure to comprehend risk and/or competition (see also greed) tends to lead to organisations pushing the boundaries of new technologies beyond the point where real harm occurs.
Edit - Legislation won't stop problems occurring entirely, but big enough fines help minimise them. GDPR didn't introduce (m)any really new requirements around handing PII, but the threat (and application) of stinging fines got the attention of MDs and CEOs in most organisations, even the cynical ones where I was working at the time. They still came up with ridiculous ideas of what they thought could do to make money from people's information, but those ideas got cut back significantly when it was explained to them why it would be illegal and what the cost of getting caught would be.

On another note; I never watched the Second Coming (Christopher Eccleston, 2003), but there's a great quote that Orbital sampled on 'You Lot' from the Blue Album. I hear it in my head whenever stuff like this comes up.


Link


Stephen Baxter:
You, are becoming Gods. There's a new master of creation, and it's you! Unraveled DNA, and at the same time you're cultivating bacteria strong enough to kill every living thing! Do you think you are ready for that much power? You lot? You lot? Cheeky bastards. You're running around science like kids with guns, creating a new world, while the world you've got is stinking, but, hands up, hands up anyone who thinks you've got it right. Yeah, there's always one. I can see you. If you want the position of God then take the responsibility.
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Andy


Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786

[havenot001]

Here is what AI thinks a Cool Vanagon looks like on Etsy.
Someone who wouldn't know, could buy this and give it to someone with a Vanagon as a gift.
With all good intentions.
Chris

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1985 Vanagon GL 2.3 Gowesty 2WD
My Club:
B.L.T.N. bltnvw.com
Meet every thursday
Stevens Creek and Lawrence expwy Santa Clara, ca

[havenot001]

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1985 Vanagon GL 2.3 Gowesty 2WD
My Club:
B.L.T.N. bltnvw.com
Meet every thursday
Stevens Creek and Lawrence expwy Santa Clara, ca