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type2much Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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what kind of lubricant can be put on lug nuts to keep them from seizing? mine are always real hard to get loose, they creak and then finally pop loose. |
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LittleThunder Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Invest it a tap and die to fit the stud and nut. Clean those threads up. Wire brush the corrosion off. I don't use any lube. If the faces of the threads are reasonably smooth, they should come on and off easy and stay tight when torqued properly. |
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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type2much wrote: |
what kind of lubricant can be put on lug nuts to keep them from seizing? mine are always real hard to get loose, they creak and then finally pop loose. |
You can use anti-seize. I would use it on the threads only, don't get any where it contacts the wheel.
I agree on wire wheel your lug nut threads. You should be able to take a lug wrench and spin the lug nuts into the drum with no resistance. _________________ How to Post Photos
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You could always try a 12 gauge.
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Stocknazi Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
type2much wrote: |
what kind of lubricant can be put on lug nuts to keep them from seizing? mine are always real hard to get loose, they creak and then finally pop loose. |
You can use anti-seize. I would use it on the threads only, don't get any where it contacts the wheel.
I agree on wire wheel your lug nut threads. You should be able to take a lug wrench and spin the lug nuts into the drum with no resistance. |
interesting advice on not using antiseeze on the bolts where they contact the wheel. i have always dabbed a little there as well as the threads and never had a problem. however, the bolt becoming loose is quite a possibility. has anyone ever had a wheel bolt become loose due to antiseeze being used in this way? _________________ WANTED:
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71592 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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StockNazi wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
type2much wrote: |
what kind of lubricant can be put on lug nuts to keep them from seizing? mine are always real hard to get loose, they creak and then finally pop loose. |
You can use anti-seize. I would use it on the threads only, don't get any where it contacts the wheel.
I agree on wire wheel your lug nut threads. You should be able to take a lug wrench and spin the lug nuts into the drum with no resistance. |
interesting advice on not using antiseeze on the bolts where they contact the wheel. i have always dabbed a little there as well as the threads and never had a problem. however, the bolt becoming loose is quite a possibility. has anyone ever had a wheel bolt become loose due to antiseeze being used in this way? |
I don't think it would really matter but I like the thought of metal on metal contact there. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Lohe Samba Member

Joined: June 26, 2007 Posts: 662 Location: Chandler, Az
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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He wasn't even drunk.. wow |
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vintagevolks Samba Member

Joined: December 11, 2000 Posts: 2476 Location: Montana
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66uno Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: GD lugnuts |
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Two weeks now of PB blaster, torch, inpact wrench, hammer and swearing. Those suckers haven't budged yet. I think I might try dry ice next. Maybe it will make the metal contract? I just don't know: I am about out of ideas and am real, real frustrated.
I have other GD things to do besides this. |
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SkooobaSteve Samba Member

Joined: March 23, 2005 Posts: 3152 Location: Dothan Alabama
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: Re: GD lugnuts |
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66uno wrote: |
Two weeks now of PB blaster, torch, inpact wrench, hammer and swearing. Those suckers haven't budged yet. I think I might try dry ice next. Maybe it will make the metal contract? I just don't know: I am about out of ideas and am real, real frustrated.
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: |
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I've used an old mechanics trick before that has never let me down. A toilet wax seal and a torch. Heat up the offending lugnut and apply the wax seal. it will melt and get into all the nooks and crannys and then try the breaker bars and impacts.
Not sure where I heard it, but tried it and it worked great. Good luck and let us know what eventually works. _________________ Visit http://www.singlewheel.com |
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rusbus Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 790 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:14 am Post subject: Re: GD lugnuts |
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66uno wrote: |
Two weeks now of PB blaster, torch, inpact wrench, hammer and swearing. Those suckers haven't budged yet. I think I might try dry ice next. Maybe it will make the metal contract? I just don't know: I am about out of ideas and am real, real frustrated.
I have other GD things to do besides this. |
Don't forget breaker bar. I have a 6 foot pipe from a chain link fence that has busted loose nuts that no impact gun could budge. 6 feet x 200 lbs = 1200 foot pounds of torque. Jumping probably increases it even more. If the wheel is spinning, lock it in place with another bar against the ground. Just make sure you have a REALLY sturdy wrench on the bolt. |
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GeorgeL Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
StockNazi wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
type2much wrote: |
what kind of lubricant can be put on lug nuts to keep them from seizing? mine are always real hard to get loose, they creak and then finally pop loose. |
You can use anti-seize. I would use it on the threads only, don't get any where it contacts the wheel.
I agree on wire wheel your lug nut threads. You should be able to take a lug wrench and spin the lug nuts into the drum with no resistance. |
interesting advice on not using antiseeze on the bolts where they contact the wheel. i have always dabbed a little there as well as the threads and never had a problem. however, the bolt becoming loose is quite a possibility. has anyone ever had a wheel bolt become loose due to antiseeze being used in this way? |
I don't think it would really matter but I like the thought of metal on metal contact there. |
Lug nuts/bolts are the one place where I don't use any goo, but then again I've never had one that I couldn't get off.
Considering the pressure between the parts it's unlikely that the anti-seize would prevent metal-to-metal contact. It just fills in the minute gaps to exclude oxygen and prevent corrosion. |
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multiple applications of liquid wrench, each followed by a few taps with the hammer. on day two get that 5' bar back out and hang on it.
I actually hung a heavy bag on my 5ft bar and came out in the morning to have the job done for me. Gooood morning. |
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Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 3113 Location: mukilteo washington
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Stocknazi Samba Member

Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5468
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:30 am Post subject: |
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GeorgeL wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
StockNazi wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
type2much wrote: |
what kind of lubricant can be put on lug nuts to keep them from seizing? mine are always real hard to get loose, they creak and then finally pop loose. |
You can use anti-seize. I would use it on the threads only, don't get any where it contacts the wheel.
I agree on wire wheel your lug nut threads. You should be able to take a lug wrench and spin the lug nuts into the drum with no resistance. |
interesting advice on not using antiseeze on the bolts where they contact the wheel. i have always dabbed a little there as well as the threads and never had a problem. however, the bolt becoming loose is quite a possibility. has anyone ever had a wheel bolt become loose due to antiseeze being used in this way? |
I don't think it would really matter but I like the thought of metal on metal contact there. |
Lug nuts/bolts are the one place where I don't use any goo, but then again I've never had one that I couldn't get off.
Considering the pressure between the parts it's unlikely that the anti-seize would prevent metal-to-metal contact. It just fills in the minute gaps to exclude oxygen and prevent corrosion. |
when i remove my lug bolts that i applied anti-sieze to it still makes that creaking sound like a dry bolt makes; almost all the anti-sieze looks like it's been wiped off where the contact point is _________________ WANTED:
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