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Splitdog
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Yeah, just price gas at $15 a gallon, that'll be good for this country...... 
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danfromsyr
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: I live in "green land" |
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This Greenland?? 
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/gl.html
3x's the size of our Texas, 56,000 people..
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here in green land this government actively encourages alternative fuel
LPG (propane), Biodiesel, Bioethanol, recycled vegetable oil, Fuel cell, and Battery.
those who use these pay little or no tax
green land is small enough to put into lake Ontario and still be able to sail around it, but has a population of around 60 milllion
with 31 million cars.
any thing like this in the US?
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Air-Cooled Head
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: messin |
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the policies of taxing big cars and suv's off the road is failing...sales are up |
That's why I say enforcement at the pump. Here, you pay your penalty up front. If the penalty was on a daily basis, folks would then notice.
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interestingly we are being encouraged to make our own biodiesel or recycled veg oil fuel in the back yards of our homes.
and of course declare the ammount so we can be taxed accordingly.(ha!)
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Interestingly, here in the states, you can get a federal license and build your own still to brew your own ethanol. Of course, with a little further distillation, you've made corn whiskey. I'd call it a secondary revenue stream. The government calls it "moon-shining". 
Look out Jeb! Here come the rev-a-nuers! 
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crofty
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| What would you call a Saturn, or a focus, or a nissan, or any hybrid? if I drive a small car, it will be for fun. I will not endanger myself for the environment. Please. |
No kidding the Ford Explorer was a real life saver!
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Splitdog
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Rather that than a prius......I don't tip cars over.... 
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Splitdog
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: I live in "green land" |
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| danfromsyr wrote: |
This Greenland??
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/gl.html
3x's the size of our Texas, 56,000 people..
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here in green land this government actively encourages alternative fuel
LPG (propane), Biodiesel, Bioethanol, recycled vegetable oil, Fuel cell, and Battery.
those who use these pay little or no tax
green land is small enough to put into lake Ontario and still be able to sail around it, but has a population of around 60 milllion
with 31 million cars.
any thing like this in the US?
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He's being, uh, sarcastic?
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blarneyman
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: messin |
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Randy, I look back on the days of gas at $6 a gallon as "The Good Old Days."
Gas: $8.50
Diesel: $9+
It keeps going up...and we still pay it |
John, did something happen in the past 9 months? I was in Glasgow last April and we were paying $7.20 per gallon.
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pyrOman
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: messin |
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| Air-Cooled Head wrote: |
| kevtherev wrote: |
the policies of taxing big cars and suv's off the road is failing...sales are up |
That's why I say enforcement at the pump. Here, you pay your penalty up front. If the penalty was on a daily basis, folks would then notice. |
What I'd notice is your wanting to get into my pocket. Stay out of it!
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Alaskan Adventurer
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Looks like here in Alaska the state maybe giving us $1000.00 to help with the high cost of fuel.That is on top of the $1,685.. every one got in Oct..Its called the PFD. So if I add this together I did not pay very much for Fuel last year for my daily drivers/ Diesiel Motorhome/Beechcraft Bonanza/VWS Pretty Fucking cool I say
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John Moxon 
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oorwullie
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: Re: messin |
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Randy, I look back on the days of gas at $6 a gallon as "The Good Old Days."
Gas: $8.50
Diesel: $9+
It keeps going up...and we still pay it |
John, did something happen in the past 9 months? I was in Glasgow last April and we were paying $7.20 per gallon.
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Yes...April last year WAS "The Good Old Days."  |
i bought my very first gallon of petrol in glasgow, it was less than 2 shillings then. |
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blarneyman
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I can remember as a kid, riding my bike to the corner store with a one gallon gas can for the lawn mower. I would take $.65, get a gallon of gas and a candy bar. At that time the gas was $.37 per gallon. 
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Faggoty Hybrid? |
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Randy, I didn't mean that personal. But I resent having these type cars shoved down our throats. With any luck, we can become like the europeans. (Socialist). And, which split? My 2nd one has a turbo'd 2007. If your Prius can beat that, I'll fill your tank. The older I get, the more joy I get from being politically incorrect. (I spelled and punctuated correctly, so I'm apparently already there!) |
All I can do is look in shock 
Nice sig BTW
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oorwullie
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| I can remember as a kid, riding my bike to the corner store with a one gallon gas can for the lawn mower. I would take $.65, get a gallon of gas and a candy bar. At that time the gas was $.37 per gallon. |
the UK£ was worth $2.40 in the 60's and there were 240 pennies to a £ then. 12 pennies = 1 shilling, so my gas was 24 cents for a UK gallon which is bigger than the american one. 
gas price here has dropped about 6 €urocents/litre in the last few weeks.  |
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kevtherev
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To sort of tie this up to our love of VW bus and cars
Flat fours are the most ideal configuration for converting to an alternative fuel.
something to do with the top end lubrication
From my own experience of converting to Propane (LPG)
the engine runs smoother and quieter with no loss of power or distance from a full tank
I have even seen Turbo splits on Propane
I found that the money saved from the cheaper fuel paid for the conversion within 5000 miles.but it helps living in "green" land as there is a massive difference in gasoline and Propane price . |
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ThorAlex
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the only thing governments are good at is contradicting them selfs. Here in Norway its all about being green, but running an alternative fuel wont really benefit you. You can run on used veggie oil only because of goodwill, its actually hazardous waste(!) and therefore illegal to dispose of yourself. Luckily the police won't care. Now we are gelling a new tax system for cars, fuel gusslers get more expensive and the cleaner ones get cheaper. Trouble is for the cheapest car i can possibly get new i could get somewhere between 5 and 10 vanagons td's and just a little bit higher fuel consumption, or one vanagon and a few years supply of fuel... easy choice isn't it? I will get a vanagon for my first car, probably a diesel, and since i do care a little about the environment i would very much like to install a particle filter, but gyess what? That costs nearly as much as the vanagon itself and i wont get any credit from the government at all.
I guess what i'm tying to say is i would very much like to go green, trouble is i just cant afford it. And the government have clearly decided that if not to help me doing so. And still they are all about being green and stuff |
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Splitdog
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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"Going green' means 'making a buck'.
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chillz1
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: messin |
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If gas ended up being $6 a gallon like in Europe...you can bet your sweet tail that there would be less SUV's on the road around here! |
I'd bet my ass you're wrong. people will pay. |
I agree. I've worked in the auto repair field for years, and they keep bitching about gas prices, but yet they keep buying gas guzzlers. It's a status thing....not unlike comparing penises.
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