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robhead Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2009 Posts: 3 Location: Southport, NC
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Feel free to skip to the bottom if you don't want the history lesson.
So back in 1984 when I was 12, my VW obsession began when I met my 69 and immediately fell in love with it, the only problem was it belonged to my cousins in a city 4 hours away. Fast forward 16 years, 4 beetles, and 2 buses later, my aunt finally agrees to sell me the 69 when it sprung a leak and stunk-up her garage (fuel line under tank rotted). They weren't driving it at the time, but they would occasionally start it and let it warm up, which she then said that the engine (1500 SP) had a warped cylinder after my uncle got drunk and over-rev'd it.
When I got it home and fixed the fuel leak, it didn't take much tinkering and I was able to get it started and I drove it around the yard, for a few minutes until the engine seemed to seize. Once it cooled down, I was able to start it again with the same results. I pulled that engine out and put in a 1600 DP I took from one of my busses.
So anyway, here I am 25 years later, still have the 69, and that 1500 is still sitting on the floor in my shop covered in dust, with a few parts borrowed but the long block is intact. One of my sons has taken an interest in my hobby and I was thinking it may finally be time to rebuild that engine. While I've rebuilt many small engines (lawn equipment) in my youth working in a small engine repair shop, I have never tackled an AC 1600. I was hoping to do just a top end and not crack the case.
What sort of evidence should I look for that would indicate a full rebuild is necessary? Is it more likely that the head is warped rather than a cylinder? Is there a clear tell if either is warped? I believe this motor may have been rebuilt before, so I'm not sure what the current bore situation is. All advice, or even snark, is welcome |
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BCE56 Samba Member

Joined: July 16, 2013 Posts: 388 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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What would cause front disc brakes (Empi conversion) failure to retract/remain in contact with rotor?
During a short drive yesterday, I noticed reduced pedal free play, brakes were dragging. Discs were very hot.
No previous issues since professional installation 6K miles ago.
Rear drum brakes apparently not affected. Parking brake functions normally. _________________ =BCE56=
'86 Syncro Tintop
EJ22, OBD II SmallCar adapter plate conversion
Side project: '69 Frankenbug now driven daily. |
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mikeonthebike Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 1011 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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BCE56 wrote: |
What would cause front disc brakes (Empi conversion) failure to retract/remain in contact with rotor?
During a short drive yesterday, I noticed reduced pedal free play, brakes were dragging. Discs were very hot.
No previous issues since professional installation 6K miles ago.
Rear drum brakes apparently not affected. Parking brake functions normally. |
I would check the soft brake lines going to the calipers. If they are bad, they will allow fluid to the calipers but not back. You can't always tell by looking at them. So maybe replace if they are old. |
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vamram  Samba Member

Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7996 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:01 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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mikeonthebike wrote: |
BCE56 wrote: |
What would cause front disc brakes (Empi conversion) failure to retract/remain in contact with rotor?
During a short drive yesterday, I noticed reduced pedal free play, brakes were dragging. Discs were very hot.
No previous issues since professional installation 6K miles ago.
Rear drum brakes apparently not affected. Parking brake functions normally. |
I would check the soft brake lines going to the calipers. If they are bad, they will allow fluid to the calipers but not back. You can't always tell by looking at them. So maybe replace if they are old. |
Piggy-backing on this, what is the expected lifetime of the steel-braided brake lines to the caliper? I have this set up on my '73 Super, brakes are excellent, but the lines are 5 years old w/40k miles on them so I'm curious. _________________ "Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition
to put moral chains upon their own appetites. -Edmund Burke
“If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.”
Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...languishing since 2022.
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BCE56 Samba Member

Joined: July 16, 2013 Posts: 388 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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mikeonthebike wrote: |
BCE56 wrote: |
What would cause front disc brakes (Empi conversion) failure to retract/remain in contact with rotor?
During a short drive yesterday, I noticed reduced pedal free play, brakes were dragging. Discs were very hot.
No previous issues since professional installation 6K miles ago.
Rear drum brakes apparently not affected. Parking brake functions normally. |
I would check the soft brake lines going to the calipers. If they are bad, they will allow fluid to the calipers but not back. You can't always tell by looking at them. So maybe replace if they are old. |
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Brake hoses (rubber) appear sound, they are not soft. All hoses were replaced w/ complete brake job when disc conversion was done 2 years ago. No leaks seen but reservoir is a bit low.
EDIT- I forgot to mention new master cylinder was installed during conversion.
So, new brake system front to rear. Complete satisfaction until now. _________________ =BCE56=
'86 Syncro Tintop
EJ22, OBD II SmallCar adapter plate conversion
Side project: '69 Frankenbug now driven daily.
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33051 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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BCE56 wrote: |
No leaks seen but reservoir is a bit low. |
Keep a good watch on that. Remember that a master cylinder can leak at its rear, into the driver area. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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BCE56 Samba Member

Joined: July 16, 2013 Posts: 388 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Cusser wrote: |
BCE56 wrote: |
No leaks seen but reservoir is a bit low. |
Keep a good watch on that. Remember that a master cylinder can leak at its rear, into the driver area. |
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Thanks for the reminder!
I forgot to mention new master cylinder was installed during conversion.
So, new brake system front to rear. Complete satisfaction until now.
I checked the pedal this AM. Free play seemed normal, but I did not drive- it is raining here today. _________________ =BCE56=
'86 Syncro Tintop
EJ22, OBD II SmallCar adapter plate conversion
Side project: '69 Frankenbug now driven daily. |
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RobinaWhatev Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2025 Posts: 1 Location: CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Hi, first time poster and new owner of a '72 Super, runs but needs some love. Can anyone tell me what these disconnected tubes are for under the steering wheel (circled in yellow)? Car came to me with these both disconnected. Not wires, clearly tubes. I'm guessing wiper fluid pressure tube? (I know the wiper fluid is powered by air pressure in the spare). Turn signals and wipers themselves work fine, horn does not.
Thanks,
R
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mikeonthebike Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 1011 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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RobinaWhatev wrote: |
Hi, first time poster and new owner of a '72 Super, runs but needs some love. Can anyone tell me what these disconnected tubes are for under the steering wheel (circled in yellow)? Car came to me with these both disconnected. Not wires, clearly tubes. I'm guessing wiper fluid pressure tube? (I know the wiper fluid is powered by air pressure in the spare). Turn signals and wipers themselves work fine, horn does not.
Thanks,
R
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You would be correct. That is for wiper fluid. Mine are hanging and non functional, also. |
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BCE56 Samba Member

Joined: July 16, 2013 Posts: 388 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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BCE56 wrote: |
Cusser wrote: |
BCE56 wrote: |
No leaks seen but reservoir is a bit low. |
Keep a good watch on that. Remember that a master cylinder can leak at its rear, into the driver area. |
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Thanks for the reminder!
I forgot to mention new master cylinder was installed during conversion.
So, new brake system front to rear. Complete satisfaction until now.
I checked the pedal this AM. Free play seemed normal, but I did not drive- it is raining here today. |
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Follow up:
*Enlisted professional assistance*
Inspected hoses, checked for leaks- all OK.
Adjusted pushrod for more pre travel.
Reset pedal stop.
Lubed pedal assy.
Significant improvement in pedal feel. So far, so good.
On to the next fiasco! _________________ =BCE56=
'86 Syncro Tintop
EJ22, OBD II SmallCar adapter plate conversion
Side project: '69 Frankenbug now driven daily. |
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jinx758 Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2014 Posts: 1022 Location: half a bubble from plumb
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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I'm B-A-C-K ... !
Yesterday my '71 died pulling into parking space at store. Struggled to start but got me home - about 7miles.
Re-gapped points, static timed, & would only crank.
Put back-up distributor in with new condenser. Reset point gap (ones that came in "new" distributor) got ready to static time the distributor. Purchased in about 2017, never installed, stored indoors in a Ziploc freezer bag.
Test light stays lit all the time.
W-T-H
I can see point gap separate but light stays on open or closed.
Did my coil short out ?
Open to suggestions.
Thanks ... stay safe... jinx _________________ " It's not valuable unless you learn something from an experience. " Henry Ford
It's not unlike the same difference ...
My Craigslist rescued 100 footer :
1971 Standard Bug
1776cc dual port
034 distributor
38mm EGAS Carburetor |
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mukluk Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7452 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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jinx758 wrote: |
I'm B-A-C-K ... !
Yesterday my '71 died pulling into parking space at store. Struggled to start but got me home - about 7miles.
Re-gapped points, static timed, & would only crank.
Put back-up distributor in with new condenser. Reset point gap (ones that came in "new" distributor) got ready to static time the distributor. Purchased in about 2017, never installed, stored indoors in a Ziploc freezer bag.
Test light stays lit all the time.
W-T-H
I can see point gap separate but light stays on open or closed.
Did my coil short out ?
Open to suggestions.
Thanks ... stay safe... jinx |
No, your coil didn't short out.
If you have your static timing light connected correctly (one wire to the same coil terminal as the points wire, the other to a good ground), then the static light staying on despite the points opening and closing indicates the points are either dirty or defective, there's a break in the wire connection from points to condenser to coil, or the points plate isn't grounded to the distributor body.
You can check all of these possible causes with an ohmmeter.
All that aside, how did you come to conclusion that the distributor was the cause of the engine dying earlier? Did you actually test for spark, or are you guessing? _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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jinx758 Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2014 Posts: 1022 Location: half a bubble from plumb
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Thanks for responding ...
Healthy double stream squirt when throttle is cycled & instant (EGAS38mm carburetor).
Solid bright light on POS coil terminal backed up by 12.7VDC from multimeter with key on.
NEG of test light on bent tab the decklid catches on body - bare metal showing through 3 layers of paint with no rust.
POS on same distributor tab green condenser wire is attached to (NEG). Test light stays on no matter if points are open or closed.
Will pull spark plug to test for actual spark & use ohmmeter on points plate, tomorrow.
Condenser wire is new out of the box & ohmed out from female tab to rubber stopper & open from rubber stopper wire to condenser case. Yes, wire inside distributor is shiny, tight, & connected.
Thanks for the path ... stay safe
jinx _________________ " It's not valuable unless you learn something from an experience. " Henry Ford
It's not unlike the same difference ...
My Craigslist rescued 100 footer :
1971 Standard Bug
1776cc dual port
034 distributor
38mm EGAS Carburetor |
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mukluk Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7452 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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jinx758 wrote: |
Healthy double stream squirt when throttle is cycled & instant (EGAS38mm carburetor). |
Healthy accelerator pump action doesn't mean the idle circuit isn't plugged.  _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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mukluk Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7452 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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jinx758 wrote: |
Will pull spark plug to test for actual spark & use ohmmeter on points plate, tomorrow. |
Any luck? _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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jinx758 Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2014 Posts: 1022 Location: half a bubble from plumb
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Er, um ... not yet.
Put a belt & tensioner on wife's daily & 3days later she pulls up with her car screeching like a cat with its tail under a rocking chair. All pulleys had checked out & noise coming between the engine & radiator.
I'm elbows deep in replacing the turbo on her chevy 1.4ltr.
$600 part at FLAPS ... ouch
Worst Engine Ever !
It has 1364cc & my bug has 1776cc ... (eye roll emoji)
It has trouble on slight uphills. When she "floors it" we hear it scream "Ouch, don't, stop, you're hurting me"
ROFLMAO
Back to bug this weekend... stay safe
jinx _________________ " It's not valuable unless you learn something from an experience. " Henry Ford
It's not unlike the same difference ...
My Craigslist rescued 100 footer :
1971 Standard Bug
1776cc dual port
034 distributor
38mm EGAS Carburetor |
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RMD3819 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2024 Posts: 38
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:58 pm Post subject: Ran out of fuel now won’t start after adding fuel |
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About a block from the house wife ran out of fuel in the 69.
She put a small amount in from a neighbor which was enough to get home.
Car has been sitting a few weeks and now won’t start after adding more fuel.
Tried a jump which did nothing. The fuel filter is empty and when cranking can see fuel bubbling into it but not filling past the very bottom. This makes me think the carb isn’t getting fuel.
My non VW neighbors have suggested using the following in the carb:
-Carb cleaner (which I have)
-Starting fluid (which I don’t have)
-Fuel directly in the carb.
Thoughts, ideas? |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1403 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Ran out of fuel now won’t start after adding fuel |
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RMD3819 wrote: |
About a block from the house wife ran out of fuel in the 69.
She put a small amount in from a neighbor which was enough to get home.
Car has been sitting a few weeks and now won’t start after adding more fuel.
Tried a jump which did nothing. The fuel filter is empty and when cranking can see fuel bubbling into it but not filling past the very bottom. This makes me think the carb isn’t getting fuel.
My non VW neighbors have suggested using the following in the carb:
-Carb cleaner (which I have)
-Starting fluid (which I don’t have)
-Fuel directly in the carb.
Thoughts, ideas? |
First thought is that sediment in the gas tank has clogged up the in-tank strainer at the tank outlet. It's not unusual for this to happen if you run the tank empty. Particulates floating around in the tank get sucked onto the strainer and embedded in the mesh, so even when you add more fuel they don't get dislodged. If you haven't changed this strainer recently (or ever) it would be best to replace it with a new one. It sounds like you have the fuel filter in the engine compartment after the pump. IMO it is better to locate this filter under the tank or next to the transmission. The fewer fuel connections in the engine bay, the better. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"It's okay to think."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
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mukluk Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7452 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Ran out of fuel now won’t start after adding fuel |
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RMD3819 wrote: |
My non VW neighbors have suggested using the following in the carb:
-Carb cleaner (which I have)
-Starting fluid (which I don’t have)
-Fuel directly in the carb.
Thoughts, ideas? |
I would take their advice and use one of those flammable substances down the carb throat to see if the engine will briefly fire up. If it does, pull the fuel hose off at the pump to see if you're getting gas back to that point from the tank or not -- if no gas is getting to the pump, OldSchool's theory is the likely problem. If you are getting fuel to the pump, put the inlet hose back on and remove the outlet hose then have a helper briefly crank the engine while you check to see if the fuel pump is forcing fuel out (fire hazard, be sure you don't have any ignition sources nearby!). If the pump's working, check for obstructions in the hose and filter you have between the pump and carb, and check for a plugged or stuck float needle valve.
If the engine won't briefly fire up when you put some flammable liquid down the carb throat, check to see if you're getting spark to the plugs. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33051 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Ran out of fuel now won’t start after adding fuel |
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RMD3819 wrote: |
About a block from the house wife ran out of fuel in the 69. |
Important: was wife departing from the house or "trying to make it home" !
Of course Mrs. Cusser would NEVER have such happen to her - right !!!!
Anyway, most likely this is super-related to running out of gas. With air in the line from tank to fuel pump, typically one needs to prime through the carburetor with hydrocarbon such as starting fluid (as others have noted), until the engine rpm pull gasoline through. Fuel pumps are made to pump liquids such as gasoline, not air. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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