Distributor 113905205T rebuild *PIC Heavy*

[wcfvw69]

[tasb]

That pivot point is factory set for the spring to advance and return the points plate within specifications. I've rarely messed with one. They are stiff and do not adjust easily without the special tool that even I do not own. it's infinitely easier to simply replace the spring.

I frequently check SVA distributor on my Sun machine. They are nearly always in spec or bad period, not much grey area.

I'm running 61 year old vacuum canisters on two of my 36 vehicles. They have been cleaned and restored, of course.
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[Alpha_Maverick]

I ordered a bosch kit #1 237 010 007.

it only has one fiber washer that fits my shaft. The other one is too big (ID and OD) Do I need two kits, or is one fiber washer sufficient?

Edit: nevermind. The answer is: You need both washers. Even with the full stack of shims, my shaft has a little bit of axial play. Blurgh. Time to order another kit, or buy a single washer.

Glenn had them, somebody said?
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[Glenn]

Email me and will workout the details.
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[Alpha_Maverick]

you've got mail... I think
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[tasb]

Some of the later DVDA distributors only use one washer. That's why the kits only have one phenolic shim. They are ignoring the fact that most Bosch distributor use two shims.
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[Alpha_Maverick]

Random thought: Is there any reason to NOT replace those fiber washers with teflon washers of similar dimensions?
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[Glenn]

Yes, the fiber swells and acts as a seal.
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Another 113905205T cleaned, lubed, and ready for points/rotor/cap to go back into service! Thanks for the thread Bill!

[wcfvw69]

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[Glenn]

Looks that way.
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[wcfvw69]

The 205M is just like the very common 205K distributor. It uses different parts than the "T". For one, the cap is shorter than the "T". They do look similar inside.
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[tasb]

Both the 113 M and T distributors use the updated points plate that has a hole for the points to sit in instead of a brass post. They may appear to be the same but, the 113 905 205 M has a shorter and narrower shaft at the rotor end and thus requires a shorter cap and rotor.

The 113 905 205 T has a taller wider shaft at the rotor end requiring a cap and rotor identical to the ones used on the 009 and other later distributors.

The difference isn't readily apparent until you line the two up next to each other.

The difference in the rotor shaft is the reason they have different part numbers.

rotor shaft diameter:
113 905 205 M 12 mm true also for 111 series distributors
113 905 205 T 14 mm true also for 009 and all later distributors

The shaft diameter where it enters the distributor housing is the same on all aluminum boded distributors essentially the K,M,T are interchangeable and often are

The 113 M and T have the same timing specs because the vacuum canister are identical.

In addition to a different vacuum canister the 113 905 205 K distributor has a different return spring than the 113 M or T. So you could install a shaft from a 113 T into a 113 K distributor and retain all other 113 K parts. You could assemble a 113 905 205 K with the later tall cap and rotor. When assembling the points plate sits underneath the points cam/rotor post.
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[Scorcho]

So i finally got the right electric ignition and am wondering if the grounding wire has to be soldered or screwed into the actual breaker plate or if i can do this:

a nut goes over that thread for the electric points. You guys think that would work?

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[glutamodo]

Overall they are very similar, if you look at them like this, they look pretty darn close:

However, the 009-K has a breaker plate with a stud for the 01 009 two-piece points and the 023-M and 035-T have just a hole there for the 01013 one-piece points.

The 035-T has a taller shaft for the later, taller, 04012/04033 rotor and 03010 cap instead of the shorter 04006 rotor and 03001 cap.
...and the K has a different vacuum canister than the other two, or course.

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[vamram]

Is the 04 006 rotor still sold?
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[glutamodo]

Bosch ones? Not sure, the Bosch Automotive Tradition website doesn't list it as discontinued. But that doesn't mean it's not been dropped from distribution by Bosch USA.

But there's other brands out there.
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