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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:54 am    Post subject: Australian 63 Beetle Reply with quote

My Beetle has been sitting under the house for over 20 years and I've decided it's time to start rebuilding it and get it on the road. It has bad damage to the front quarter which I will try to fix or replace. I will do a body off rebuild.
I will probably have many questions and to get the ball rolling here's a minor one. Does anyone know whether the broken radio aerial in the pic is original or aftermarket?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not 100% sure, but I think original one's had round mounts...

Good luck with the rebuild!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im pretty sure the original one is supposed to look like this..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I did manage to find a pic of what seems to be an original Beetle and it had the same aerial only it was straight up and down and not on an angle. I think I'll start out by welding up the holes. I probably don't need a radio aerial anyway. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All antennae were dealer added items. So it depends when it got done. Most of that era had the duel post setups.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a 58 and will have it in a couple of days. Between the two cars I should be able to come up with a decent one. It is missing the semaphores and later tail lights and front turn signals have been added.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice man! I would say build the 58.. 58's are sweet Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll strip everything out and then decide whether the rust work is something I can handle. It will probably be the 58 that gets built up using metal from the unrusted 63. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked it up today. It has later model fenders and running boards fitted. Engine is a 1300. Not original.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll strip everything out and then decide whether the rust work is something I can handle. It will probably be the 58 that gets built up using metal from the unrusted 63. Smile


Fix 'em both. From what I see in your pics, the front quarter damage doesn't look too bad, likely can be beaten out with a hammer and dolly.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah well the pics don't show just how bad it really is. It's also shifted the whole front over about 1/2".
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the 58 is too far gone to bother with. I've got to hope that the whole front can be removed and fitted to the 63. I have no idea how I'm going to do it.





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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone done a front quarter replacement without cutting the body? I mean by pulling apart the seam in front of the door and sliding out the old one. I need to know how to go about it so that the seam will look undamaged when the job is finished.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, the '58 and '63 are totally different under the skin... everything
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I can see there are a lot of differences but maybe the whole front will go on.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is serious body-building/trades work...

if you, as you say, 'have no idea' it's a project best left to a competent restorer who will unpeel your A-pillars, drill out the spot welds on the sills etc and graft one to the other.

You will then have a circa- $1500 bill to pay and a forever-mismatched shell
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plan of attack is changing all the time as I discover new faults and differences. I have an unused NOS 58 front apron coming. I may also have found someone who has a rack and is a VW expert and may be able to get the front put back into the correct position. If I could find a good 63 quarter I would use it but at this moment the quarter from the 58 may have to be used. I may also cut the quarter off about 4 inches forward of the seam as I don't really want to bend the seam back and then hope it I can get it dead straight after the replacement quarter is fitted.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be tugging-out and beating that 63's nose to repair. If that doesn't work, get a nose cut from the 'VW [or Volkswagen] Restorers Australia' page on FB. The '58 stuff simply won't fit
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smitty63 wrote:
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Has anyone done a front quarter replacement without cutting the body? I mean by pulling apart the seam in front of the door and sliding out the old one. I need to know how to go about it so that the seam will look undamaged when the job is finished.
FYI, the '58 and '63 are totally different under the skin... everything
Yes, I can see there are a lot of differences but maybe the whole front will go on.

My buddy had the front clip of a '58 removed by unfolding the seam with the intent of using it tor replace the front clip of a '55 that he had. See pic in the third post of his thread - Jeff's 55 Oval Ragtop. The problem with trying to use a full '58 front clip on a '63 is that the gas tanks are different between the two years. Although the front clip would most likely fit fine, you'd run into problems with the gas tank.
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