My 1977 bus Smog test Results - California

[SGKent]

Historical record of California emissions testing on my 1977 bus

2025

2023

2021

2010 - 2021

2010 initial w/new engine, pre-emissions calibration

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[dodger tom]

congrats on passing steve. did you do any tweaking?
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1978 Champaign Edition 2 Westfalia
Would never find the time to keep up another classic air-cooled.

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[Muddock]

Nice to see a pass!

I managed to pick up a NOS tri pulley a few years ago which is needed for the smog pump.

[skills@eurocarsplus]

[aeromech]

Steve,
Drive it or don’t drive it. If owning it makes you happy then enjoy
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[Abscate]

I did a quick swag of ppm to g/ mile and I think your Bus is still at 1/2 of the 2025 standard for HC emissions, impressive.

Enjoy your Bus , Steve
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[SGKent]

[edhnb]

Steve those are some clean smog numbers! I just got mine smogged last week and my numbers were good, but not as good as yours.

The (hopefully) good news is that SB 712 (Leno's Law) came closer to becoming a reality last week and passed the Senate Transportation committee vote. Hopefully we won't have to deal with this much longer!
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1977 Asi Riviera

[SGKent]

Thank you. Keep in mind that the Senate bill won't allow you to use your bus except to shows, parades, charitable functions, and historical exhibitions. Yes, you can go get the occasional ice cream cone. But if you get caught taking the kids to school, driving to work or college, etc., and a ticket gets issued, one won't be exempt from the testing. The law will apply to collectors who drive maybe 10 miles a month in their buses on the way to shows. Basically what the collector insurance policies will cover. You aren't going camping in it, or a day surfing at the beach, a trip cross country unless it is to a VW event like at Havasu. if a CHP sees you at 8am in traffic, they may assume you are commuting to work. The real solution is for EPA and Congress to remove the California exemption and treat us like the rest of the USA. We also need to get rid of ethanol in the fuel. It is destroying the land and water according to the National Academy of Sciences.
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[airschooled]

All those requirements were struck out on March 24th of this year. Only requirement is 35 years of age. This is HUGE.

It will likely put me out of business, but that's fine, EMPI will sell lots of carburetors and L-Jet systems will be practically free.

Robbie
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[Xevin]

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[KTPhil]

Sorry, not making this political (ok, a little), but quoting sources shows party affiliation.

"Republicans point out that proposed Leno’s Law on classic cars 'affects 1% of cars'.”

- OR -

"California Senator Blakespear (D) worries this could incentivize more people to abuse the system and hold on to “older, junkier” cars that negatively impact the state’s air quality."

"Senator (D) Caroline Menjivar’s concerns revolve around the lack of checks and balances with the bill that could be abused and allow people who just want to hold onto their old cars to be exempted from state smog checks."

So...

Which side of this issue is dealing with facts, and which cites imaginary scenarios that are unlikely to the point of being virtually non-existent?

But let's get out the microscope on this population of "abusers." Let's look at the 1% of 1% that might "abuse" this law. People who are hanging on to "older, junkier cars" cannot afford the latest EV or hybrid. The naysayers provide NO ALTERNATIVE for these people. They are unlikely to contribute to their next campaign, so they are ignored. The arrogance and insensitivity shown is appalling, as they pretend to be saving the planet. These people have no clue. Then they wonder why businesses and population leave the state...
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Current Fleet:
- '71 Fastback
- '69 Westfalia
Retired:
- '67 Beetle
- '65 Beetle (x2)
- '65 Bus
- '71 Squareback

[SGKent]

[timvw7476]

ah yes. the fear-mongering. 'What happens when people start keeping their olde rides & enjoying them too much?!?' lol.
nobody's out here driving around with a stupid grin on their face operating a KIA Sephia from 1993 or a '91 Ford Probe. That's not gonna happen.. trust me. lol.
Long Live The VW Bus.

[Vanagonsgoslow]

There is a guy on YouTube called "TK's Garage". His various recent videos all allege that the Trump Administration/Regime has a bill pending in the US Congress which will abolish all of California's air quality exemptions which allow California to set exhaust emissions testing and state emissions standards which are different from the federal standards.

TK also alleges that exhaust emission levels will be returned to the low levels originally established by the federal government back in the very early 1970's, and that ALL state testing requirements for emissions will be abolished. I will believe it when I see it, although I wouldn't mind no longer having to get bi-annual exhaust emissions tests and paying exhorbitant prices for any California EPA/CARB certified exhaust emissions parts like new catalytic converters for my older cars.

TK is also a big Mopar and Stellantis fan, for what it's worth, so you have to be willing to put up with a MAGA load of his opinions about what is happening with Stellantis, Dodge, Ram, Jeep and Chrysler while he discusses the "pending" federal bill that will gut the California exhaust emissions requirements and testing. He also alleges that the California Air Resources Board (CARB) will be made obsolete by this new federal bill; that all federal funding for CARB will cease; and that all the "big-wig" employees of CARB are jumping ship right now and looking for jobs in the private sector.

[Xevin]

Yup. California smog rules and regulations are out dated and ridiculous. My hometown of Portland, Oregon has silly outdated Department of Environmental Quality rules too (DEQ) Get this, I live on the border Oregon and Washington state. Washington no longer requires Emissions testing.

“ The number of cars commuting to Portland from Vancouver, Washington is difficult to pinpoint exactly, but estimates suggest around 35,000 commuters spend 10-24 minutes driving to work in the morning rush hour. The I-5 bridge is a major congestion point. Additionally, consumer affairs found that Portland's average commute time is 25 minutes, according to CTV News says that drivers in Metro Vancouver are spending an average of 30.5 minutes commuting per day”

For you California folks. Think if Oakland and East Bay Area, didn’t require Smog or CARB and San Francisco down to San Jose required CARB regulations.

It’s stupid. More cars commute from the the East side suburbs than San Francisco people commute to the East of the Bay.

Similar to how more people drive and commute to New York City from New Jersey than people from NYC drive to NJ.

10 miles from my house across the Columbia River with many many commuters and cars that share the same valley. Washington people who commute to Oregon no longer need Smog or DEQ testing but the people who don’t drive as much and commute less miles need to pass Smog and DEQ for cars 1975 and newer.

Edit: Steve K. Think if people south of the American River were exempt from CARB rules and your neighborhood had to follow CARB rules. It’s ridiculous. This bullshit is on both sides of the aisle going back many years. In both our towns.
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[SGKent]

Oh trust me. I bought the 1977 when it was the year it was exempted. I was so happy that I would not need all that testing, then Arnie (R) signed the change of legislation, passed by (D) that unexempted it. I would not have bought it had I known that was going to happen but I already had money into it at that point. Don't get me wrong, the engine runs like a new one, but it has been a labor to get and stay there.

As to TK, I don't think he has the full picture. What happens to the years 1964-1/2 to whenever it ends, that California had an exemption to EPA rules? Even if Congress ends the exemption to create different laws on new cars, lawnmowers etc., you know that CARB and the state AG will argue that the specifications created under the exemption starting in 1964-1/2 still stand as grandfathered in - unless they can make more money on us by not testing us and making us pay a fee. As to what is going on in Portland and Washington, I read and hear the news, then hope y'all are happy with how things are there. It would drive me nuts being like Oblio with his dog, Arrow, in the Land of Point.



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[Abscate]

Bills pending in Congress are public record. No reason to watch blog drivel.

Anyone who thinks they can predict what this administration will do is…..deleted, because it’s probably against the rules.
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[Xevin]

Excellent Oblio reference. One of my favorite movies. Bobby Brady is fantastic as is Ringo


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