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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

Has anyone seen or know where I can find round mirror clamps in stainless steel? I have one and would like to find another.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I'll say it: I would say where you got the first one! Kidding aside, the Ace Hardware near my house has all sorts of weird stuff. Maybe call around if you can't find it at your favorite hardware store. WW sells them, but I don't know if they are stainless.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flat Four and IZZ's were the only ones I kew that made them
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got mine at wolfsburg west.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does it matter? As soon as you tighten it down it chips the paint off your arm and that rusts. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses. I will try IZZ's and yes I did ask the guys at the shop where they got them and they thought from IZZ's, but were not sure and thought it was a one time thing. As far as using them on painted arms I agree that the paint chips and there you go..rust, but I running with stainless steel arms as well and when you live a few blocks from the ocean stainless is the preferable way to go.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

Do IZZ's or Flat Four have websites?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stainless is the way to go. I lived in Santa Cruz for 13 years, rusty but not like the East coast. Izzy also has stainless window slider lock channels, very nice addition.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I'm a dork. Just found IZZ's on the business listing, ya learn somethin new everyday. Good to know about the window lock channels as well. I'm about to redo the seals on my window frames and freshen them up. The stainless lock channels would be cool.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

Anyone know where I can get round mirror clamps like these 11 years later in stainless steel?

WW only has the cheap rustable ones.

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211857545

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

Galvanic coupling ruined the whole idea of stainless hardware for me. Especially on somewhere visible.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

Thanks cru62 I'll ask if he has the clamps or I'll just coat WW clamps.

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I've heard there are some concern's about stainless Malokin Martin, where is this a photo of?

What is more shocking is the wiki link you sent and food, looks like I need to rethink food preparation and get glassware, YIKES:

"Lasagna cell
A "lasagna cell" is accidentally produced when salty moist food such as lasagna is stored in a steel baking pan and is covered with aluminum foil. After a few hours the foil develops small holes where it touches the lasagna, and the food surface becomes covered with small spots composed of corroded aluminum.[15] In this example, the salty food (lasagna) is the electrolyte, the aluminum foil is the anode, and the steel pan is the cathode. If the aluminum foil only touches the electrolyte in small areas, the galvanic corrosion is concentrated, and corrosion can occur fairly rapidly. If an aluminum baking pan is used instead, the rate of corrosion is markedly reduced, but still may occur."

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Galvanic coupling ruined the whole idea of stainless hardware for me. Especially on somewhere visible.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

Zinc is sacrificial.

We've seen how bolts get rusty when the zinc oxidizes... as it's supposed to.
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Then, we improve on it by replacing it with shiny stainless hardware... only to have the base metal become the first to oxidize due to galvanic corrosion. Then your stuff really turns to crap. Better to just switch out the hardware with fresh zinc plated steel... if it really bugs you.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

So what is preferred? Coat the sink style with clear grease?

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Zinc is sacrificial.

We've seen how bolts get rusty when the zinc oxidizes... as it's supposed to.
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Then, we improve on it by replacing it with shiny stainless hardware... only to have the base metal become the first to oxidize due to galvanic corrosion. Then your stuff really turns to crap. Better to just switch out the hardware with fresh zinc plated steel... if it really bugs you.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

It all depends...

A little mirror clamp corrosion over time is OK = do nothing

Needs to look great: (some combination of the following)
1) paint, wax, clearcoat, etc.
2) replacement schedule
3) keep it garaged / babied

To avoid base metal (your bus body)... use fasteners that will be sacrificed or are the same metal.
Minimize the difference in electrical potential when selecting fasteners.
You'll see (column 1 / row 3) in the chart below... with the steel bus body and the zinc plated mirror clamp... the engineers designed the bus body to outlive the zinc coating on the mirror clamp.

Here's a chart I put up in a Hehr jalousie window thread... when someone was using stainless screws or rivets. (so in this instance, ignore the red/green & just check out the chart)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

For protection from Galvanic corrosion, this stuff: https://www.ultratef-gel.com/tef-gel/

For coating zinc plated steel, this stuff: https://www.amazon.com/BOESHIELD-Corrosion-Protect...shield+t-9

I buy the T-9 stuff by the gallon, but you can also buy a $10 bottle. I live in a VERY humid/salty environment and I fight corrosion on everything. I have tried lots of products, but have become loyal to the two listed above. Lots of aluminum fastened by stainless hardware here, that also gets exposed to salt. Even my tools are coated with T-9....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: Stainless Steel Side Mirror Clamps Reply with quote

Thanks easy e, that chart has me nervous because I used stainless screws on my Jalousie windows and you probably were the one to tell me not to.

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easy e wrote:
It all depends...

A little mirror clamp corrosion over time is OK = do nothing

Needs to look great: (some combination of the following)
1) paint, wax, clearcoat, etc.
2) replacement schedule
3) keep it garaged / babied

To avoid base metal (your bus body)... use fasteners that will be sacrificed or are the same metal.
Minimize the difference in electrical potential when selecting fasteners.
You'll see (column 1 / row 3) in the chart below... with the steel bus body and the zinc plated mirror clamp... the engineers designed the bus body to outlive the zinc coating on the mirror clamp.

Here's a chart I put up in a Hehr jalousie window thread... when someone was using stainless screws or rivets. (so in this instance, ignore the red/green & just check out the chart)
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That stuff looks exactly what I need Drew Ogden, do you think I can put that T9 on my stainless screws on the jalousie windows? I have a Wet Coast Marine near me and can purchase it there.

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For protection from Galvanic corrosion, this stuff: https://www.ultratef-gel.com/tef-gel/

For coating zinc plated steel, this stuff: https://www.amazon.com/BOESHIELD-Corrosion-Protect...shield+t-9

I buy the T-9 stuff by the gallon, but you can also buy a $10 bottle. I live in a VERY humid/salty environment and I fight corrosion on everything. I have tried lots of products, but have become loyal to the two listed above. Lots of aluminum fastened by stainless hardware here, that also gets exposed to salt. Even my tools are coated with T-9....

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