Front floor insulation under carpet, Replace with??

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Just cleaned up the floorpans on my girlfriends squareback and peeled out the tar/ foam boards that are under the drivers and pass feet. What have you guys been using under your carpet up front? First night with the squareback!
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shawn
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KTPhil · Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:41 am Post subject:

Those pads were designed well. The sandwich design meant that vibrations were not transmitted through them, making them more effective at sound deadening. Also they were cheap. Try to replicate the layers with foam and some other heavier material. The damn stickyness is a pain but it made them more effective at muffling sounds of all frequencies. Mine are original, and I haven't had to find replacements, but I'd look hard for something layered like the factory ones.

blankmange · Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:59 am Post subject:

isn't there a replacement tar-board kit for Type 1's? if so, couldn't you use this (modified, of course) as a replacement?
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ddare · Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:49 am Post subject:

i am using this stuff called polymeric mastic. Rather, will be using, once I finish paint and put the body back on the pan. You can get it from http://www.mcmaster.com/

It's kind of like tar board but I think more plastic than asphalt, apparently has pretty good sound deadening properties. that with a layer of jute carpet padding should do. jute padding is absorbent, so i wouldn't recommend it if you have any leaks in your windshield seal, pan, doors etc but its super cheap.

There was another guy that did his squareback in 2layers of polymeric mastic, said it worked out well, i think he has pictures posted.

Crippler · Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:52 am Post subject:

i ordered four sheets of polymeric mastic from McMaster Carr. it covered everything, sound dampened, and i have some left over.

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urchin · Samba Member Joined: December 20, 2004 Posts: 99

If you live in a wet area like me water is always a problem. I use ice and water sheild that they use for roofing or I use a product called blue skin makes the entire floor water proof. The carpet wants to slide around some but at least the pan stays dry even with a inch of water in it. I have done it to at least 10 different cars/vw caddys and my sq back. The caddys are always filled with water to the point of needing drain holes but the metal stays dry.

rloaircool · Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:52 am Post subject:

urchin · Samba Member Joined: December 20, 2004 Posts: 99

Go to a building supply co. Home depot maybe. Its for waterproofing foundations Ice and water sheild which is a underlay for roof shingles is similar although not quite as sticky. I also put down absorbant spill pads soaked in trans fluid in the lower part of the pans ( foot areas) Then the blue skin only sticks to the perimiter. It is very very sticky so a cool day is better to try and manouver the stuff. Try a little piece of it first to see how it feels.

andk5591 · Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject:

Would you say the the polymetric mastic is equivilant to dynamat? Getting ready to get into this part on my 69.
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x43x · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:05 am Post subject:

It functions the same as Dynamat for much less money, but doesn't have the fancy looks. The stuff I got is asphalt based, so it's pretty heavy, but thin. Dynamat also has some heating properties for keeping the cab cool, but I'm not sure if the polymeric does the same thing. It dampens engine and road noise really well in my car. Here's a link to an old thread of my install.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=144038&highlight=polymeric+mastic

andk5591 · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:08 am Post subject:

So - it almost looks like tarboard, but nicer - easy to work with? By the way, your interior looks GREAT!
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Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
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x43x · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:45 am Post subject:

Its really easy to work with. It comes in large sheets with a super sticky side that has paper to peel off when you're ready to apply. I used a carpenter knife and a razor blade to cut my pieces out.

rloaircool · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:52 am Post subject:

x43x · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject:

I didn't use extra glue. The stuff is pretty damn sticky and should work well if the surface is nice and clean. When cutting out your pieces, don't take the backing off until you get it exactly the way you want it, or else its a bitch to peel back off and readjust.


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