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mallred Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Spring Creek, Nevada
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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This thing works great.......as good or better than new, when used properly |
http://www.drilldoctor.com/
I am very curious as to how these things work.
It looks like a pencil sharpener.
I learned to sharpen drill bits properly, during my millwright apprenticeship many years ago.
I find it hard to imagine how a pencil sharpener looking unit could cut the angles, and sweeps, you need on a properly sharpened bit.
I have heard many times they work well!
Can someone enlighten me? _________________ Mark Allred
'64 Resto Custom Bug - Daily Driver
'57 Sunroof Bug - Endless Project
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 19395 Location: Samba Center for Behavioral Science
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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mallred wrote: |
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This thing works great.......as good or better than new, when used properly |
http://www.drilldoctor.com/
I am very curious as to how these things work.
It looks like a pencil sharpener.
I learned to sharpen drill bits properly, during my millwright apprenticeship many years ago.
I find it hard to imagine how a pencil sharpener looking unit could cut the angles, and sweeps, you need on a properly sharpened bit.
I have heard many times they work well!
Can someone enlighten me? |
It may look like a "micky mouse" RONCO type machine but they work.
It only sharpens the points though....
They work decent... better than having a bunch of useless bits around
(not everyone is adept at old fashioned methods of sharpening bits like you may have learned in your trade/skill)
AND you can get TONS of bits CHEAP AS HELL at pawn shops and sharpen them and save a TON OF MONEY VS buying new bits all the time. Except for a few really small bits that can get broken or a very specific "lettered" or other odd sized bit... I have found pawn shops to have buckets of drill bits for sale for about 5-25 cents each!
http://www.drilldoctor.com/
http://www.drilldoctor.com/ftproot/500750X_Users%20Guide.pdf |
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finefettle Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 699 Location: Shelburne,Vermont
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: Eastwood spot cutter |
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My Eastwood spot cutter lasted about 10 welds them gave up. I switched to Dewalt Pilot point drill bit (5/16 I believe) and it worked great. |
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poopdevil Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2008 Posts: 270 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I am currently removing my rear package tray as it is rotten and i tried a 3/8 bit but it is hard to tell when to stop and i either go all the way thru or I make a dent but then have to try to pry it up and it never just pops loose..
TIPS?
How do I get it off without punching thru and not prying the crap out of around each weld. It leaves bits of metal behind that I have to grind down. |
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duginabug Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2007 Posts: 481 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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This is what worked for me.
What I did was scuffed up the spot-welds with sandpaper to make then stand out, then make sure your centered on the weld. If the bit walks on you, you may have to use a center punch. The key is to drill SLOW. Not like stupid slow but with the thin metal you don’t want to go at it high speed. With a good sharp bit, steady speed and pressure, you should be able to cut the first layer of metal with one or two full turns of the bit. _________________ 1960 Sedan. L349 Jade Green. |
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Gary Person of Interest
Joined: November 01, 2002 Posts: 17069 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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duginabug wrote: |
This is what worked for me.
What I did was scuffed up the spot-welds with sandpaper to make then stand out, then make sure your centered on the weld. If the bit walks on you, you may have to use a center punch. The key is to drill SLOW. Not like stupid slow but with the thin metal you don’t want to go at it high speed. With a good sharp bit, steady speed and pressure, you should be able to cut the first layer of metal with one or two full turns of the bit. |
Use a center punch no matter what. Also, I recommend using a wire wheel on a drill to clean the sheet metal of paint, dirt, and rust. Some of those spot welds are almost invisible unless clean sheet metal is visible. _________________ West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) |
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The_Codeman Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2007 Posts: 176 Location: Huntington Beach CA
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AJ Quick Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2006 Posts: 539 Location: Minnetonka, MN
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poopdevil Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2008 Posts: 270 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:13 am Post subject: |
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I ended up using the same one as you did there from harbor freight. Only thing is that yes the cut is pretty big. Anyone know where I could get one smaller in diameter?
I tried a drill bit also but it would barely do the job. Is there a specific bit that any of you used out there that made easy cuts? |
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Fritter Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2004 Posts: 232 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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The Harbor Freight one worked great for me. Can't beat the price, even if a tooth or two breaks off after 50 spot welds. Just grab another! |
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finefettle Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 699 Location: Shelburne,Vermont
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: Irwin turbo max bits |
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I'm having success with Irwins turbomax bits. Better than pilot points. Just take your time.
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poopdevil Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2008 Posts: 270 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Where did you get them at? |
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finefettle Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 699 Location: Shelburne,Vermont
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: Irwin turbo max bits |
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I found a set at Lowes for around 15 bucks or so. It even had a 1/2" bit with it. I use oil when I drill and I've been using the same bit for 40+ spots so far. Still sharp |
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Rob Timmons Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2005 Posts: 648 Location: Peru NY
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have one similar to this but it is made by blair. I was breaking teeth like crazy until I decided to drill a small dimmple in the middle of the weld first. The bit stopped wandering and I now get a lot of cuts out of one bit.
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Gary Person of Interest
Joined: November 01, 2002 Posts: 17069 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I bought one of these a few months back, but not from Eastwood. It was from a local tool store for the price of $17.70 for a 3/8" cutter.
I works great by cutting the metal on the top layer rather than requiring both panels be cut. I recommend it over those crappy cutters with the drill bit that has the circle with teeth on it. I tried one once and it couldn't even cut butter. _________________ West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) |
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KYbuggy1 Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2005 Posts: 8 Location: Louisville,KY
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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I drill more spot welds than I care to remember, every day practically. This is the back , elbow and wrist saving"est" tool I've ever purchased:
http://www.dentfix.com/viewItem.asp?idProduct=17&a...SS_Capable
Nearly effortless.
Hard to swallow the price at first, but WELL worth it in the long run. A hobbyist would never wear it out if it wasnt abused. Comes with an inline oiler attached.
And if you cant get to the backside, you can remove the clamp and it still works better than any spotcutter bit out there, and I've tried every single new thing that came along on the tool trucks until I bought the spitznagel.
Second best is the style of bits posted by finefettle, a very distant second.
Larry _________________ '64 Beetle driver,stock 1600,dual baby webers
single seat competition hillclimb woodsbuggy 14:1 2500cc T1
inline 2 seater woodsbuggy 13:1 2387cc (son's)
3 seater woodsbuggy 10.5:1 2276cc (wife's)
http://woodsbuggy.com/ http://dandkoff-roadpark.com |
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uoduckfan89 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2009 Posts: 3 Location: Bonney Lake, WA
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: Newb to spot weld cutting |
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I'm rebuilding a 71 standard bug and I need to take the whole front end off (not worth fixing), what's the best way to get a good clean disassemble? |
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John Miller Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2004 Posts: 735 Location: Elizabethtown KY
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I just bought this one.
I'll never use anything else. _________________ The 68 Ghia
The 62 Beetle
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Any suggestions will be appreciated even if they suck and are stupid. |
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maggiolino basso Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2004 Posts: 185 Location: Vero Beach, Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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These are the heat for the home welder/bodyman.... $4.99 plus tax at Harbor Freight.................. _________________ "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to weld you feed him for a lifetime"
http://maggiolinobasso.blogspot.com/ |
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zuggbug Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2008 Posts: 3492 Location: Anderson SC
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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jmillers62 wrote: |
I just bought this one.
I'll never use anything else. |
I have been using these bits with a drill - very slow go and a lot of elbow grease - I just bought a Rigid impac driver
had to modify the bit a little but MAN!!!! it cut thru the metal like a hot knife cuts thru butter. _________________ SOUTHERN INTEGRITY AIRCOOLERS
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