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ivsamhell
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: 61 turnsignal switch |
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ok my turn signal switch works (61 6-wire spade connectors) but the arm is broken off, anyone know if i can mix match some parts from a later one(3 wire)?
or anyone have a beige(or whatever that ivory color is) one they want to part with |
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scottyhoffo
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I seem to recall a post a while back about this... I may be wrong but if
I remember correctly the answer was no, because the internals were a lot different - something like that.
I need a new switch for my '61 for the same reason. One of the PO had simply stuck a small bolt through the two broken pieces making for a very short turn signal lever. Quite ghetto indeed.
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LXS
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Tell me about it! Join the "I need a '60-'61 turn signal switch" club  I'm the "founding member", welcome to the club! I'm president, and I seen you met my sergent at arms, Scotty H!  LoL |
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bill may
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LXS
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| i used an arm off a 63 3wire to replace the arm on my 60 euro ragtop. |
How did you wire it up to use the brake and turn signal lights? Or did you use the 62 and newer taillights? |
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bill may
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ivsamhell
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| scottyhoffo wrote: |
I seem to recall a post a while back about this... I may be wrong but if
I remember correctly the answer was no, because the internals were a lot different - something like that.
I need a new switch for my '61 for the same reason. One of the PO had simply stuck a small bolt through the two broken pieces making for a very short turn signal lever. Quite ghetto indeed. |
i dunno wounds pretty nice......
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ivsamhell
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| bill may wrote: |
| i used an arm off a 63 3wire to replace the arm on my 60 euro ragtop. |
thats exactly what i had in mind, run into any problems on that? |
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LXS
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| reread my post- i used only the arm. you pull the clip and the arm comes off. i used the stock 1960 tailights. |
O ok, nevermind then I miss read and thought you used the whole turn signal switch. I've got a 62-newer turn signal switch, so I can't make it work like you did.  |
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scottyhoffo
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: At least yours doesn't look like this... |
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Better late than never - figured y'all would get a kick out of this:
That's my car's PO hack job.
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LXS
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| WoW!!! and OUTCH!!!! |
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akokarski
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you can use 3 wire switch with 4 relays. Not pretty but it will work. actually you might get away with 2 relays, I have 4 because I am using my front park lights as turnsigs.
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LXS
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| akokarski wrote: |
you can use 3 wire switch with 4 relays. Not pretty but it will work. actually you might get away with 2 relays, I have 4 because I am using my front park lights as turnsigs.
Anton |
How did you wire this up? I've got the 3 wire signal switch, and don't have any brake lights (which is really scarry when big trucks are speeding behind me!!!) or turn signals. Any help and/or info would be great! Thanks! |
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akokarski
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| akokarski wrote: |
you can use 3 wire switch with 4 relays. Not pretty but it will work. actually you might get away with 2 relays, I have 4 because I am using my front park lights as turnsigs.
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How did you wire this up? I've got the 3 wire signal switch, and don't have any brake lights (which is really scarry when big trucks are speeding behind me!!!) or turn signals. Any help and/or info would be great! Thanks! |
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/htm/flashrly.htm
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/schem/flashrly.jpg
it might look a little crazy but after looking at it for a few minutes you will see that it's just 4 relays. one for each corner. brake circuit is on and get's interrupted when switch is flipped. same idea for the front.
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fluxcap
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No need for relays. If you have a 3 wire switch just go to the auto parts store and get a trailer convertor. It's for cars with independent (two separate bulbs) towing a trailer with common (one bulb) lights. you run your brake light wire and rear turn signal wires through it, and it does the work of the 6 wire switch. I just wired one in on my 62 which has the earlier snowflake taillights. Here is a pic of the convertor. I wired mine up front so I could easily change it when I get a 6 wire switch, but you can just as easily wire it in the rear out of sight. It works perfect, took about 3 minutes to install and is priced cheap (10 bucks).
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akokarski
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Fluxcap,
where did you find this? I haven't been able to find this unit when I did my lights wiring. Although i would still end up running 2 of those. one for the front and one for rear....
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fluxcap
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I got mine at autozone. But I think most autopart stores will carry them. I've even seen them at walmart. Just look in the trailer light/wiring section. Unless you have something custom planned for your front blinkers, you should only need one.
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LXS
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I'll DEFINATLY look into getting that converter! Thanks for the info! 
Edit: So just one converter will work for both front and rear turn signals and brake lights, right? Just want to make sure...I've got nothing "fancy" planned. |
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fluxcap
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Mine had 5 "input" wires and 4 "output" wires.
The inputs were:
Brake light - this is the wire coming OUT of the master cylinder brake switch
Left signal - this is the left signal wire coming off of the turn signal switch
Right signal - this is the right signal wire coming off of the turn signal switch
Running light - I cut this wire off of the convertor (there is no need to run your running lights through it.)
Ground - I also cut this wire off since the actual ground is created by the contact piece on the light mounting bracket.
The outputs were:
Left - this wire goes to the left rear bulb (duh)
Right - this wire goes to the right rear bulb (duh again)
ground - cut it off
running light - cut it off
Here's a closeup.
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fluxcap
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LXS, yes, one will do the job.
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