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Da TOW'D Samba Member

Joined: December 25, 2005 Posts: 1385 Location: Bella Coma Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: Hand crank handle |
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Hi Gang,
I got to hand crank start the 1200 motor on my '58 SC (Ruff) today.
We did a little creative cutting with the plasma cutter on the tin below the crank pulley for the hole.
There was a VW crank handle that was missing the cross pin up front in the storage compartment that came with the SC.
I MIG welded a 8mm bolt across and cut it to lenght.
One flip and Ruff was purring- sweet
just had to share
hank _________________ '57 type 1 Blackberry
'58 SC Ruf
'62 type 3 Notch
'92 Eurovan Willy
'99 Eurovan Winnie
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BarryL  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Lind Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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I find that non-VW people are quite impressed by hand crank starting a bus. especially when you happen to have stalled in the middle of an intersection, and have procrastinated replacing the electric starter. (only happened once.) _________________ .
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Mowser Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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are there re pops available for them? My '59 DC has the apron but I haven't looked into it just thinking that it was an impossibility. I'm guessing they aren't that complicated but don't see many of them in my neck of the woods. _________________
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Lind Samba Member

Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 10221 Location: idaho
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Mowser wrote: |
are there re pops available for them? My '59 DC has the apron but I haven't looked into it just thinking that it was an impossibility. I'm guessing they aren't that complicated but don't see many of them in my neck of the woods. |
originals are readily available. search the classifieds. crank handles run about $75. nuts run about $25. _________________ .
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71547 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Lind wrote: |
Mowser wrote: |
are there re pops available for them? My '59 DC has the apron but I haven't looked into it just thinking that it was an impossibility. I'm guessing they aren't that complicated but don't see many of them in my neck of the woods. |
originals are readily available. search the classifieds. crank handles run about $75. nuts run about $25. |
If you have a '59, make sure you get a '59 handle, it's longer to clear the larger rear bumper. _________________ How to Post Photos
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stephenmullens Samba Member

Joined: January 13, 2005 Posts: 1927 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
Mowser wrote: |
are there re pops available for them? My '59 DC has the apron but I haven't looked into it just thinking that it was an impossibility. I'm guessing they aren't that complicated but don't see many of them in my neck of the woods. |
originals are readily available. search the classifieds. crank handles run about $75. nuts run about $25. |
If you have a '59, make sure you get a '59 handle, it's longer to clear the larger rear bumper. |
The subtleties never end! I have bought two handles for pre 59 buses and I bet both are long versions. |
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Lind Samba Member

Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 10221 Location: idaho
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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stephenmullens wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
Mowser wrote: |
are there re pops available for them? My '59 DC has the apron but I haven't looked into it just thinking that it was an impossibility. I'm guessing they aren't that complicated but don't see many of them in my neck of the woods. |
originals are readily available. search the classifieds. crank handles run about $75. nuts run about $25. |
If you have a '59, make sure you get a '59 handle, it's longer to clear the larger rear bumper. |
The subtleties never end! I have bought two handles for pre 59 buses and I bet both are long versions. |
the long versions are rare. I am not convinced that they used them for the whole year in '59. I see one long one for every 20 or so normal ones. I have pulled a normal one out of a later bumper '59. _________________ .
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Mowser Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the heads up... I'll keep an eye out. _________________
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oorwullie Samba Member

Joined: May 01, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: fribourg,switzerland
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: |
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could anyone tell me what the different lengths actually are? inches or cm's.  |
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incynr8 Samba Member

Joined: September 23, 2003 Posts: 822 Location: Soylent Green is PEOPLE!
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: |
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if someone were to use a cordless drill, a rubber tubing that fits the generator nut, but can break free ... Does anyone feel it's possible to emergency start a non crank start equipped bus this way? _________________ ..........
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Stocknazi Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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you could make your own crank if you had an og to copy. a few bends with a torch for the shaft, and drill the end for the proper sized cross pin, sounds pretty simple.
maybee someone can post some measurments of their crank _________________ WANTED:
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incynr8 Samba Member

Joined: September 23, 2003 Posts: 822 Location: Soylent Green is PEOPLE!
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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I can't mod my bus, Jdot took away my drill.
Just wondering if that might work for a portable 'bus starter'. Always one at a show that needs a push... _________________ ..........
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Lind Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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here is what happens when you collect too many 36hp buses...
some of the jacks are extras, but all the hand cranks go to buses that I have in my collection.
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BarryL  Samba Member

Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 15244 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:59 am Post subject: |
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incynr8 wrote: |
if someone were to use a cordless drill, a rubber tubing that fits the generator nut, but can break free ... Does anyone feel it's possible to emergency start a non crank start equipped bus this way? |
Personally, I doubt it has enough power plus the gen nut area is too fragile. |
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Da TOW'D Samba Member

Joined: December 25, 2005 Posts: 1385 Location: Bella Coma Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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oorwullie,
the length of the hand crank shaft I have is 280mm(11") from the "vertical" section of the handle to the working end
I'd like to also find out the longer hand crank shaft length as the only rear bumper I have is a 1964 deluxe bumper.
It looks like I can't use the handle we have when the bumper is mounted. _________________ '57 type 1 Blackberry
'58 SC Ruf
'62 type 3 Notch
'92 Eurovan Willy
'99 Eurovan Winnie
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langsmer Samba Member

Joined: November 18, 2004 Posts: 1127 Location: CO/NM border
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Can you run a hand crank nut on a 1600? |
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rusbus Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 790 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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langsmer wrote: |
Can you run a hand crank nut on a 1600? |
Sure, the Things had them on a 1600.
For kicks I installed the crank stuff on my 1776. Works great. |
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incynr8 Samba Member

Joined: September 23, 2003 Posts: 822 Location: Soylent Green is PEOPLE!
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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BarryL wrote: |
incynr8 wrote: |
if someone were to use a cordless drill, a rubber tubing that fits the generator nut, but can break free ... Does anyone feel it's possible to emergency start a non crank start equipped bus this way? |
Personally, I doubt it has enough power plus the gen nut area is too fragile. |
agreed, better to push... if there is no crank.
I wish they would have kept that feature. _________________ ..........
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Nic B-C Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have NOS pulley nuts on my two 126a engines these are available if anyone needs them along with the double pulleys and rest of the genny kit. |
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