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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild -Photos- Reply with quote

Been working on this today Just reinserted the piston into my Girling calipers and this technique worked well:

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For me, the key was to be patient and feed the back end of the seal in all the way around with the front outer part of the seal about halfway down the piston. I used the wood to apply even pressure, but even then, I stopped every couple of turns and took the wood out to see if things were really even. If it feels hard to turn, then something is not right. Once the piston was more than halfway in, you could feel it sliding in nicely and you could move the outer edge of the seal into its groove.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild -Photos- Reply with quote

I have one caliper leaking. I tightened it to 50 ft-lbs. I should have just bought a rebuilt set.

ATE wise. You can do this without splitting the calipers. My O-rings between the two halves of the caliper were fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild -Photos- Reply with quote

For sure! Braided Stainless Steel, plus doing new Nickel copper hard lines.

Anybody know what to torque the 4 bolts holding the two pieces of an ATE caliper together? Will have to scan the Bentley to see if that info is there.

Rebuilding them wasn't bad. I probably spent roughly 1 hour per side. $13-17 a kit. I'll post pictures tomorrow
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild -Photos- Reply with quote

great time to replace those 20 year old rubber hoses Exclamation
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jwallis wrote:
I made a video of rebuilding ATE calipers last week. Trying to do this more to add to the collective knowledge base

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHecTdC35Q


Heck yeah man. I have to rebuild mine soon. I not only watched your video but I also glanced through your multithreading c# video Laughing multithreading gets fun when you share data structures between threads.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do not use copper paste

the best thing to use is Unisilikon TK 44 N brake paste - Porsche part # 000.043.117.00 for a 50 g tube

if not, then any good quality brake paste, labelled as such

use brake fluid in an emergency
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a video of rebuilding ATE calipers last week. Trying to do this more to add to the collective knowledge base

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHecTdC35Q
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had nipple breakage this last week when trying to bleed. I couldn't salvage the caliper and I got a rebuilt unit. Putting it in I found the slider to interfere slightly with the backing plate and I trimmed the plate. I'm thinking there must be some slight differences in the sliders between Girlings. This is on '86 syncro

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http://shufti.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/replacing-that-buggered-caliper/

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plate trimmed and caliper installed:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks good. I assume the powder coating didn't cause any fitment issues? PC can be a little thich from time to time.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brake fluid works fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the thing I question is the compatibility of the copper paste with brake fluid.
Brake fluid is one of the last fluids you want compromised
I've always just used brake fluid and some care to reassemble caliper pistons without any problems
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JunkYarDog wrote:
Bumped again Wink This is a job I'm doing now too. I have the dual piston girling calipers to work on.

As for the paste, someone correct me if this is wrong. I had a German mechanic tell me to lightly lube the pistons with copper paste before I load them back into the cylinder.


Can anyone advise on the use of copper paste as I was told???
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I powdercoated and rebuilt 2 sets of audi dual piston girling calipers and stock vanagon calipers. I lightly lubed the piston and seal with brake fluid and pressed it back in place. I got the audi rebuild kits from http://www.autohausaz.com/index.html Good luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumped again Wink This is a job I'm doing now too. I have the dual piston girling calipers to work on.

As for the paste, someone correct me if this is wrong. I had a German mechanic tell me to lightly lube the pistons with copper paste before I load them back into the cylinder.

floggingmolly wrote:
I don't get that...if the dust seals don't fit the Girling (which I have), what's the point? What if my dust seals are bad?

I thought the same of mine, as it turns out I was wrong. The problem was there are four metal rings, one for each cylinder lip. They are used to secure the dust seal inplace.

I'd love to powdercoat these calipers but it's not gonna happen. So High temp paint it is. This has been a good thread for me to read prior to this job though. I'd never had thought to use both bleaders. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get that...if the dust seals don't fit the Girling (which I have), what's the point? What if my dust seals are bad?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SSWesty,

Thanks for the links. I have a 1983.5 so I guess need this one.

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_708_195/caliper_rebuild_kit.html

Bummer! But more seals = more $
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Westylife, right now both Bus Depot and Van Cafe have them for $10. You need to make sure you get the kit to match your calipers.

http://busdepot.com/view.jsp?model=43&category=5&group=58&prodgroup=870

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/smartlist_641/caliper_rebuild_kit.html
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SSWesty wrote:
Great write-up! I used this when I rebuilt my calipers...thanks for the great pictures and the list of steps.

Mine had about 1/8"+ of goopy sludge in them and my dusty seals didn't have any tears. It took me about 5 hours to do the job which seemed like a lot of work given the fact you are only replace 4 rubber seals. But heck I can't complain too much since the rebuild kit was only $10.

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SSWesty,

What was the source for the rebuild kit? The ones I found want $20 a set Shocked


Captainpartytime,

MANY THANKS!!! Its so funny sometimes when you need to do something and then all of the sudden a thread (WITH PICTURES) shows up. Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job on the calipers, the powder coating looks great!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good pictures.
I'm in process of rebuilding some dual piston G60 calipers for my brake upgrade. It really is pretty easy. Oh, and yes those pistons sure pop out with some unexpected force with the compressed air!
Now I'm trying to decide on getting them powder coated or just painting them with high temp engine paint.
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