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bobhill8 Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2017 Posts: 737 Location: MA
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild -Photos- |
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Been working on this today Just reinserted the piston into my Girling calipers and this technique worked well:
For me, the key was to be patient and feed the back end of the seal in all the way around with the front outer part of the seal about halfway down the piston. I used the wood to apply even pressure, but even then, I stopped every couple of turns and took the wood out to see if things were really even. If it feels hard to turn, then something is not right. Once the piston was more than halfway in, you could feel it sliding in nicely and you could move the outer edge of the seal into its groove. _________________ 1986 Westy
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shagginwagon83 Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2016 Posts: 3804 Location: VA/TN
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild -Photos- |
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I have one caliper leaking. I tightened it to 50 ft-lbs. I should have just bought a rebuilt set.
ATE wise. You can do this without splitting the calipers. My O-rings between the two halves of the caliper were fine. _________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
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shagginwagon83 Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2016 Posts: 3804 Location: VA/TN
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild -Photos- |
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For sure! Braided Stainless Steel, plus doing new Nickel copper hard lines.
Anybody know what to torque the 4 bolts holding the two pieces of an ATE caliper together? Will have to scan the Bentley to see if that info is there.
Rebuilding them wasn't bad. I probably spent roughly 1 hour per side. $13-17 a kit. I'll post pictures tomorrow _________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
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Merian Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild -Photos- |
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great time to replace those 20 year old rubber hoses _________________ .... |
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shagginwagon83 Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2016 Posts: 3804 Location: VA/TN
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Heck yeah man. I have to rebuild mine soon. I not only watched your video but I also glanced through your multithreading c# video multithreading gets fun when you share data structures between threads. _________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
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Merian Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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do not use copper paste
the best thing to use is Unisilikon TK 44 N brake paste - Porsche part # 000.043.117.00 for a 50 g tube
if not, then any good quality brake paste, labelled as such
use brake fluid in an emergency _________________ .... |
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jwallis Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2012 Posts: 569 Location: Austin
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I made a video of rebuilding ATE calipers last week. Trying to do this more to add to the collective knowledge base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHecTdC35Q _________________ TheVanTracker.com - Kill Switch + GPS Tracker + Door-open alerts, made specifically for the Vanagon!
50+ YouTube videos - brakes, bearings, CV joints, 1.9/2.1 cooling system, mods, Bostig and more... |
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ragnarhairybreeks Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2009 Posts: 1890 Location: Sidney B.C. Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I had nipple breakage this last week when trying to bleed. I couldn't salvage the caliper and I got a rebuilt unit. Putting it in I found the slider to interfere slightly with the backing plate and I trimmed the plate. I'm thinking there must be some slight differences in the sliders between Girlings. This is on '86 syncro
story here
http://shufti.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/replacing-that-buggered-caliper/
interference pics:
plate trimmed and caliper installed:
alistair _________________ '86 7 passenger syncro, converted to westy pop top, project still in progress
'82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94, now gone...
https://shufti.blog/
Old address still works...
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Masta Shake Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2010 Posts: 198 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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That looks good. I assume the powder coating didn't cause any fitment issues? PC can be a little thich from time to time. _________________ As a good friend told me when I got the Syncro: "Welcome to the an intense love/hate relationship". |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12009 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Brake fluid works fine. |
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82WestyMan Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2006 Posts: 1098 Location: Western OR
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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I guess the thing I question is the compatibility of the copper paste with brake fluid.
Brake fluid is one of the last fluids you want compromised
I've always just used brake fluid and some care to reassemble caliper pistons without any problems _________________ "The floggings will continue until morale improves"
"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell" - Harry S. Truman
82 Westfalia - w/ a Raby 'Camper Special' engine |
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JunkYarDog Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2007 Posts: 676 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:35 am Post subject: |
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JunkYarDog wrote: |
Bumped again This is a job I'm doing now too. I have the dual piston girling calipers to work on.
As for the paste, someone correct me if this is wrong. I had a German mechanic tell me to lightly lube the pistons with copper paste before I load them back into the cylinder.
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Can anyone advise on the use of copper paste as I was told??? |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12009 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I powdercoated and rebuilt 2 sets of audi dual piston girling calipers and stock vanagon calipers. I lightly lubed the piston and seal with brake fluid and pressed it back in place. I got the audi rebuild kits from http://www.autohausaz.com/index.html Good luck. |
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JunkYarDog Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2007 Posts: 676 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Bumped again This is a job I'm doing now too. I have the dual piston girling calipers to work on.
As for the paste, someone correct me if this is wrong. I had a German mechanic tell me to lightly lube the pistons with copper paste before I load them back into the cylinder.
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I don't get that...if the dust seals don't fit the Girling (which I have), what's the point? What if my dust seals are bad? |
I thought the same of mine, as it turns out I was wrong. The problem was there are four metal rings, one for each cylinder lip. They are used to secure the dust seal inplace.
I'd love to powdercoat these calipers but it's not gonna happen. So High temp paint it is. This has been a good thread for me to read prior to this job though. I'd never had thought to use both bleaders. |
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floggingmolly Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2007 Posts: 1106 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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I don't get that...if the dust seals don't fit the Girling (which I have), what's the point? What if my dust seals are bad? _________________ '85 Wolfsburg Weekender |
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westylife Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2007 Posts: 409 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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SSWesty Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2008 Posts: 732 Location: Bellevue
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westylife Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2007 Posts: 409 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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SSWesty wrote: |
Great write-up! I used this when I rebuilt my calipers...thanks for the great pictures and the list of steps.
Mine had about 1/8"+ of goopy sludge in them and my dusty seals didn't have any tears. It took me about 5 hours to do the job which seemed like a lot of work given the fact you are only replace 4 rubber seals. But heck I can't complain too much since the rebuild kit was only $10.
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SSWesty,
What was the source for the rebuild kit? The ones I found want $20 a set
Captainpartytime,
MANY THANKS!!! Its so funny sometimes when you need to do something and then all of the sudden a thread (WITH PICTURES) shows up.
Westylife _________________ 1983.5 Westfalia Bostig RG1 |
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presslab Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2008 Posts: 1730 Location: Sonoma County
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Nice job on the calipers, the powder coating looks great! _________________ 1986 Vanagon Westfalia EJ25
1988 Subaru GL-10 EJ20G --- 2000 Honda XR650L
2010 Titus El Guapo --- 2011 On-One 456 Ti |
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James 93SLC Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 937 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Good pictures.
I'm in process of rebuilding some dual piston G60 calipers for my brake upgrade. It really is pretty easy. Oh, and yes those pistons sure pop out with some unexpected force with the compressed air!
Now I'm trying to decide on getting them powder coated or just painting them with high temp engine paint. _________________ -------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
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tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka" |
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