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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: if a ship comes in. Reply with quote

I may have sold my business. not sure, but maybe. there will be debts to pay off, closing costs and money to my business partner. but, I think I will get to spend some money on my westfalia. my husband wants me to invest for retirement, but the way I see it, my westy is an investment in my retirement. it is very hard to end the list of what I want to do!
new brakes, tencent engine, nice paint job, new tent, window and door rubber, grey water tank, SA grille, new bumpers....

wonder if I'll have that much, and if I actually should spend it on my westy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would compromise, and just buy the engine, the bumpers will get a dent, the new paint will fade, but the motor will go on and on Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhetorical question you ask, but my POV, in terms of pouring money into my Westies, is based in part on this:

How long will gas vehicles be viable? Battery tech has a long way to go before an electric Vanagon is a going to be practical for camping/touring.

For me, I see putting money into them now for use now, or soon, as logical.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanagon Nut wrote:
Rhetorical question you ask, but my POV, in terms of pouring money into my Westies, is based in part on this:

How long will gas vehicles be viable? Battery tech has a long way to go before an electric Vanagon is a going to be practical for camping/touring.

For me, I see putting money into them now for use now, or soon, as logical.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the important functional things. SA Grill is nice but it should not be a priority. You want to direct your $$ towards helping the van run, making it look different is not vital. Save some $$ for future needed work. Congrats on selling your business (hopefully).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i say go for it, its obvious you love your Westy - I'm thinking along the same thoughts too, but am doing a ground up restoration - and it is for my retirement enjoyment, for travel and golf..... Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:24 am    Post subject: ship Reply with quote

We started investing in our retirement the day we bought the westy. We can build on it's value,it expands our horizons,it takes us away even just sitting in it in the driveway. Any money spent has come back tenfold already.

Just look at the picture threads on this site to see where our vans have taken us. My kids said yesterday they get along better in the backseat than anyplace else! How rich is that?

To each is own. We all have our ideas and beliefs. For us,the van fills up all of them.

Spend away I say.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asking us about saving the money of spending on the
Westy is the equivalent of asking a meth head to
open a bank account or buy more drugs. It's an addiction
that has no cure.
Honestly it really depends on what kind of shape your in
for retirement and how long before you plan to retire.
How about a compromise that you put the money into
a 6 month account of some type (I don't want to derail the
post with what accounts are better) to give yourself a cooling down period. See where
life takes you for a couple months and then consider
a new engine/upgrades.
We all want the perfect Westy right away but if you
go slow you can drag the fun out over a longer period.
I personally enjoy the hunt of finding a new van and
them fixing it up the fun part. Once I get it almost perfect
I find myself looking for the next "hunt".
If you do dump a bunch of money into your rig. Be sure to
get some insurance that will protect your outlay. If it ever
was stolen or totaled you want to be able to get some sort
of return....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: ship Reply with quote

bjrogers86auto wrote:

Just look at the picture threads on this site to see where our vans have taken us. My kids said yesterday they get along better in the backseat than anyplace else! How rich is that?

To each is own. We all have our ideas and beliefs. For us,the van fills up all of them.

Spend away I say.
Brian

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save your money for later. It's much harder to save rather than spend. Figure out a way to make some extra if you want to spend on the van. It's NOT an investment. It's a car.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only fix what you have to.

Brakes, if worn out.

Engine only if the old one is dead.

The rest of the stuff you mention is cosmetic.

As stated above, bumpers get bent, paint fades, etc.....

Save as much as you can.

In my case, we invested and the return funds lots of needed stuff.

Make the money work for you and do not toss it into a money pit.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have other competing hobbies to my Westy.. so these decisions are a little less.. "all or nothing" for me.

Peronsally..
..and I think most folks over 40 who may be looking at eventually quitting the rat race, will agree..
I like to put away a good portion of a "windfall".. and maybe pick one or two reasonable luxuries to treat one's self to.

Its important to live today.. but its equally important to take care of yourself for tomorrow.

The SA grills will still be there in a couple months.. if you MUST have one.


Sleep on it for a few nights.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question of how long gasoline engines will be viable... a long stinking time. Maybe not because of petroleum based fuel, but alternative fuels will become more popular/available to fill that need. It might cost $10/gallon, but there will be options.

As time goes along, more efficient gas, better diesel, or other conversions will become common...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillM wrote:
Asking us about saving the money of spending on the
Westy is the equivalent of asking a meth head to
open a bank account or buy more drugs.


X2

Only get what you need and let your money work for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grandmother used to say "Don't count your chickens before they hatch." Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, I haven't sold it yet, so haven't spent the money, of course. neither will I do stuff before it needs to be done. we also plan to invest some of the money. but the westy is my hobby, my habit and my home away from home. I appreciate all the good and thoughtful advice, but I'm going to fix up my van and I'm looking forward to it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you! Enjoy! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake de Villiers wrote:
My grandmother used to say "Don't count your chickens before they hatch." Wink


My grandmother said: "You can't take it with you! Enjoy it while you can!"

In other words: If you can afford to do it, do it. But make sure you have enough stashed away somewhere for personal emergencies and live off of.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillM wrote:
...it really depends on what kind of shape your in
for retirement and how long before you plan to retire. ....


That's the key point. If you're in your 40's and you have nothing saved up for retirement then you need to focus on your future first unless you want to depend on the generosity and good will of others to help you when you're too old to work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: fix my westy Reply with quote

Blue Bay Bus Fix it, the way you want. There more fun then kids! You can't take the money with you! So lets have some fun and spend it now! If you do it right, the van will hold it's value. At least thats how I look at mine! Now this is considering you can still afford the necessities! Very Happy
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