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jeffros 58
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 Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:16 pm Post subject: E Brake cables |
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| I have a 1957 single cab truck with a early 60s transmission thinking 62-63 ish is there some one who has this combo and have a part number for what brake cables I would need for the truck ? Thanks in advance |
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ach60 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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I cobbled together so BS for a buddy in the 90's for this problem.
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Oofff,
Remembering the hack job we did to adapt late too-long e-brake cables to an early bus. LOL
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My head hurts from those pictures, another ghost from the past comes back to haunt me!
And all I had to do was order this, VW Cable Shortening Kit, Parking Brake
Qty: 1 Code: 3169
https://www.jbugs.com/category/vw-dune-buggy-off-road-emergency-brake-cables.html
Funny what you can learn from a Dune Buggy. |
But you can learn from Kurt "glideking" the master of Funky Truck, please see below:
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I tried that kit, but the first time I yanked up on the handbrake to test it, it just ripped out. Tried tightening the grub screw even more, but it just stripped the hex head.
There are a few threads in the FAQs on more reliable ways to make the cables work. I think Glideking's solution in his Funky Truck thread is the most elegant though. |
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Usual problem of having non stock length hand brake cable when using "big nut" rear brake drums with early bus.
For years I used these off road cable ends and cut down the long '67 length cables. I used Loctite and they have never slipped.
Problem is there is very little room for adjustment as the cable stretches and brake lining wears. The hex section is too large to fit into the compensating lever and can't go through the tubes to remove the transaxle or RGBs. Once the cables have stretched they must be replaced. Later split buses have much more room for things like coupling nuts and treaded rod. No such room in the early bus. These are one time only use because they smash the cable.
Always looking for a better way. Turns out I had the solution all this time. I make my own aircraft control cables. This tool is $19 bucks from Aircraft Spruce.
3/32 tin plated copper swages are a perfect fit and stronger than the factory ends.
Here is the total length I used for a '67 brake backing plates with a stock '59 rearward positioned hand brake lever. Even with shrink tubing they fit easily through the chassis tubes.
It is beginning to look like 1959 under here. Now there is plenty of room for adjustment and the cables can be easily removed and installed.
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Clara
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:58 am Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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If your tranny has small nut boxes, it uses the same cables as a normal 57. (A later center section does not mean it needs a different cable.)
If the tranny has big nut boxes, the stock cables wont fit.
This from a search:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=188724
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T1mmyJ
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:50 am Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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Hello all,
I am in need of some help. I am refurbing a 58 Kombi and a previous owner has installed a second hand brake!
I would like to revert back to a single hand brake but do not have the link (part number 211 711 345) between the Hand brake and the compensating lever.
Does anybody here have one for sale or could someone give me the dimensions so I could get one manufactured.
Many Thanks in advance
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EverettB
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T1mmyJ
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:07 am Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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That's exactly the bit thank you.
Guessing you don't know anyone who sells them do you? |
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Clara
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:23 am Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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Hello all,
I am in need of some help. I am refurbing a 58 Kombi and a previous owner has installed a second hand brake!
Tim |
Pics of dual hand brakes!
Can you turn on a dime?
Is there some hackage?
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Stocknazi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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Can someone please explain how to remove the parking brake cables from the backing plates (big nut).
Do the cable need to be unhooked from the E/brake lever up front to be swapped onto different backing plates?
Doing a big nut to big nut swap and the backing plates are already installed (with new axle seal kits) on the new transmission.
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VWLady
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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Can someone please explain how to remove the parking brake cables from the backing plates (big nut).
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The bent metal portion that enters the backing plate is a friction fit IIRC. Some gentle tapping to drive it out the back should work. |
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70bus
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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Remove these first
EMERGENCY BRAKE CABLE SPRING SEAT CLIP,
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211609731
My truck had ebrakes hooked up but drum-to-drum trans needed to go to shop and then cables reattached when it came back, so yes, cables can be unhooked/hooked at shoe without removing cables at front.
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Stocknazi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:48 am Post subject: Re: E Brake cables |
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Well, the cables/tubes just pulled out the back of the backing plate with a twist; there wasn't anything holding them to the backing plate.
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