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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Coil discussion Reply with quote

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...0169726448

i will try to get that dead body to make a cutaway .....pictures will follow soon if i win the auction ...

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A star coil is not the only correct coil for pre 1952 Splits. Infact it seems that it is incorrect for 1951 cars.

Bosch 1952 blue spare parts book lists the following:

VW 1947-1950: TE 6 A 3 früher = earlier TL 6/1
VW 1951: same as above

For Goliath the change from TL 6/1 to TE 6 A 3 is mentioned and took place on 11 November 1950. For VW the date is not mentioned.

The TE 6 coils are not star coils. They have the "reserve" place for the third connector in the bakelite as seen in the picture. The other end has a round pressing.

And it appears to be the correct coil for splits. For 1951s and for some in the range of 1947-1950. At least according to Bosch Smile

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Suboval wrote:
lzamora wrote:
I have 3 coils.... One is a TE6B1, second is a TE6A3 and the third is a star coil TL 6/1. Im trying to figure out which one is correct for a January 53 Zwitter and a May 56 oval? Any help


TL 6/1 was used before November 1, 1950
TE 6 A3 was used after November 1, 1950
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TE6B1 was used on August 14, 1956 starting with chasis 1261493
See Progressive Refinements, Volume 1, Electrical TAB, E-14
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/progressive_refinements/

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again thats is not 356 pre-a , Romano should know that.
TK (fat) Porsche vs TE (thin) VW. is not that hard
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rollo Tomasi wrote:
Again thats is not 356 pre-a , Romano should know that.
TK (fat) Porsche vs TE (thin) VW. is not that hard


Oh................he knows. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone in BC sold two TK/6 (one NOS in box one nice used) to a friend of mine as a correct star coils for his 1950 split. 600 euros he paid.
He came back to Mexico all happy with his finds and I had to tell him the truth. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the bracket the eboy coil is neither VW nor Porsche. Good luck with the bidding Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe the bracket is bent ????

what that star coil could be for ??????

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: OK I'm game Reply with quote

Ok,
I need to know the difference between the TK (fat) Porsche vs TE (thin) VW.
Does anyone know? (Bob) Anyone? (John H.)......
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one is thin, the other is fat , these are the differences ....

btw the thin one is not "te" it is "tl" , correct me if i am wrong

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right!! the one I have here is Stamped TL 6/4 , but I remember saw TE in other car vws??

What about voltage diferencies,??
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had it in my hands last weekend in mannheim on the veterama.
price was 50eur.
i think the star is just stamped in the top of the coil.......
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ricardo,
Do you mean the diameter of the coil itself or the bead around the "star" of the coil?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO , I MEAN THE DIAMETER OF THE COIL BY ITSELF ....IT IS ABOUT 52MM FOR THE THIN , BUT I DON`T HAVE A FAT ONE TO MEASURE ...

WAS ROMANO SELLING THAT COIL AT VETERAMA ??
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will measure the diameter of the TK(fat) on my 52
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have both kinds at home, will measure tonight....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thin TL 6/1 dia is ca. 52.2 mm

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My fat TK6/3 dia is ca. 63.8 mm
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting style of coil there but obviously neither a VW nor Porsche with that type of mounting, looks like a possible bargain if you need a wrong part that hasnt been "proofed" the seller should know better than to represent it as a VW part ...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no surprises here .....do you know who`s selling the coil ? the good ol`romano !
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My skinny one is marked "TL 6/1"
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, ricardo, romano was the seller and is also the seller of the coil on ebay.
i saw some tk12 coils today, they cost around 80eur.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A star coil is not the only correct coil for pre 1952 Splits. Infact it seems that it is incorrect for 1951 cars.

Bosch 1952 blue spare parts book lists the following:

VW 1947-1950: TE 6 A 3 früher = earlier TL 6/1
VW 1951: same as above

For Goliath the change from TL 6/1 to TE 6 A 3 is mentioned and took place on 11 November 1950. For VW the date is not mentioned.

The TE 6 coils are not star coils. They have the "reserve" place for the third connector in the bakelite as seen in the picture. The other end has a round pressing.

And it appears to be the correct coil for splits. For 1951s and for some in the range of 1947-1950. At least according to Bosch Smile

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