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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: case value Reply with quote

What is a 1600 universal dual relief case worth that is in good shape but needs line bored?Thanks for any info.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AS 41 maybe 50.. AS21...maybe 100
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$50?
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely no one is qualified to answer this question without seeing the case. Please post a picture otherwise the answers you get are useless.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are only worth what the buyer is willing to pay for them. Very Happy

I pay $50 each for a good core case. Fully re-worked cases can command about $200 or so depending on how good they are done.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Absolutely no one is qualified to answer this question without seeing the case. Please post a picture otherwise the answers you get are useless.

Why would a picture help? You can't measure a picture of a case, can you?

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Case is worth whatever people are willing to pay.....

You can put it up as "make offer" or price it at what you want to get out of it.... IF its to high, it will not sell. You can always drop price...

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I wouldn't give you a dime for it. If the case has been pounded out enough that it needs line boring, it needs also needs to be stress relieved, and it also needs it's mating surfaces to be machined. I don't know of anyone stress relieving engine cases anymore. If you line bore the case and it hasn't been stress relieved, it will do so on it's own while the engine is in service. Before you know it your oil pressure is low.

I know a lot of people think that Gene Berg was going overboard when he said that you shouldn't rebuild a line bored case that wasn't stress relieved. But I've seen the effects that he described. I watched the oil pressure, on my newly rebuilt engine with a line board case, drop significantly within 5,000 miles. I'll NEVER use another line bored engine case again. It just isn't worth my time an effort only to see it go to waste in a very short time.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott, you just plain shouldn't be giving out advice.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Absolutely no one is qualified to answer this question without seeing the case. Please post a picture otherwise the answers you get are useless.

Why would a picture help? You can't measure a picture of a case, can you?

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No, you can't measure a picture but you can see what the major problem areas look like. Number 1 is what the bearing saddles look like. Number 2 is the thrust bearing surface. Number 3 is the strainer plate area. Now, obviously you can't know anything exactly; but you will have a much better idea of what shape the case is in compared to what one guys idea of "good" is.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott,

One thing you gotta learn is that not all alignbore job will be the same quality. Some will be better than others.

Also, oil pressure is a function of the oil pump and clearances of the parts.

Low oil pressure should not come from alignboring the mains. AFter all, they are all alignbored from factory. Granted this was done with very large machines. But you can also reproduce this cut out of the factory.

What does the stress-reliving do to the case? If the case has warped is beyond anyone's ability. Unless you have a giant flycutter to resurface the mating areas like a Storm Vulcan 85B. After you surface the mating areas, then you are talking some serious machine work to follow to bring it back to standard.

Alignboring to next oversize makes more sense and easily done.

And plenty of cases out there...alignbored..that have lived long lives and even in race cars.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it needs to be align bored/has been aligned bored, I won't pay a dollar over 25, if it was still STD/STD I would shovel over anything for 50-100.

I won't buy anything over .20 on the mains, or if it has its first cut on the thrust
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Absolutely no one is qualified to answer this question without seeing the case. Please post a picture otherwise the answers you get are useless.

Why would a picture help? You can't measure a picture of a case, can you?

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No, you can't measure a picture but you can see what the major problem areas look like. Number 1 is what the bearing saddles look like. Number 2 is the thrust bearing surface. Number 3 is the strainer plate area. Now, obviously you can't know anything exactly; but you will have a much better idea of what shape the case is in compared to what one guys idea of "good" is.

Good points.

I suppose what an unexamined case is worth is probably an inverse function of the buyers gullibility.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you can definitly say it is worth the $7.50 magnesium scrap value Very Happy
From there it is a mater of what modifications are needed to make it work.
I once paid almost $950 for a crappy single port case that needed a line bore and wouldnt hold oil pressure in Africa... It was that or abandon my Bus....
I was happy with the price...
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: case value Reply with quote

Thanks for the input,looks like $50-75 would be a fair price for the case that had standard bearings.Needed a starting price as will probably sell at a swap,so as was stated, the potential buyers will determine the final price.
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