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Sly Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 32 Location: Bathurst, N-B, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: Second Battery, Surepower and generators |
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Hi all,
I've been thinking of adding a auxillary battery to my '71 westy and I just found a Surepower isolator on sale. Thing is i can't figure out if its gonna work on my system. I have a stock system down to the generator with external regulator. All they talk about is alternators.
I checked the past post on the subject and couldnt find anything about generators. anyone have any insight on this?
Thanks a bunch guys. |
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John R Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2002 Posts: 86 Location: Hamilton, MT
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Aux. Battery,isolation etc. |
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I could be terribly, terribly wrong, but as far as I know, once the voltage/current leaves the source, ie. alternator, generator, it becomes moot what the prime mover was?? So, if your isolation "valve" works at all it shouldn't make any dfference where the power/load comes from.:: |
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djspn Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2005 Posts: 453 Location: Tracy, MN; Prairie Farm, WI; Saipan
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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I can't comment on the surepower, but the relay I installed last year from German Supply was easy and works well. _________________ Peace
'71 Bus .....stock running gear [ex SVDA and pertronix] |
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asafk Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2008 Posts: 81 Location: Israel
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure you have the right Surepower isolator. It should have three large terminals, and one small terminal. the model is designed for Bosch alternator with an internal regulator, but there's a way to use it with an external regulator
The three Large terminals- Connect it the common way - the middle one to the alternator output, and the other two- one to each battery.
now the tricky part- you have three wires between the alternator and the regulator. one is a red wire. cut the red wire on the alternator end of it (and isolate the pare connected to the alternator), and reconnect it to the small terminal on the isolator. (It will now be connected between the isolator "reference voltage" terminal to the D+ terminal on the regulator). make sure that the blue wire going from the regulator to the charging light is still there (connected to the same terminal).
Everything described here- is the way the isolator is installed originaly in my '78 reviera.
Asaf. |
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asafk Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2008 Posts: 81 Location: Israel
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Forgot to write- - It is connected in a very similiar way in older vehicles with a generator- the important part is getting either an isolator without a "reference voltage" terminal (this will be the fourth terminal) or getting one like mine, but not using the fourth terminal.
Asaf. |
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visibleink Samba Member

Joined: May 03, 2002 Posts: 1669 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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djspn wrote: |
I can't comment on the surepower, but the relay I installed last year from German Supply was easy and works well. |
+1 EXCELLENT kit. Scott is a stand up guy. _________________ Been on the samba so long I remember petting that dog to see VWs, WYHI, and green bug girl.
<-- Helga, she slammed her dub in '53 and adjusted valves with her teeth |
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carrera1984 Samba Member

Joined: January 19, 2008 Posts: 49 Location: Marquette, MI & Chicago, IL
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Im still a little confused on this I have a rebuilt 80amp motorola alternator with a external regulator. I would like to hook up the 4 post isolator. I think i just need to clarification on what goes where... here is what im working with... thanks in advance
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