short shift kit

[Bruce Wayne]

thinking of getting the short shift kit for my 85GL. should I get the one with or without the extension? I see they have it at VC for $50 (without exstension)and $75 (with exstension).is there a cheaper place to get it? pros and cons of this mod anyone?

[Wellington]

http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C31%2D711%2D149%2D212

http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C31%2D711%2D149%2D214

I saw these listed at CIP1, CSP stuff is usually pretty good, can someone explain the difference betwwen these two items. No one else seems to addresss a difference.

[fastwagens]

I have a short shift kit I got from a van I parted (unknown manufacture) and am using it with a shift extension that I fabricated and sell in the classifieds. I am very happy with this set up that I removed it to take some measurements and it felt so uncomfortable going back to stock that I put it back on immediatly.

[syncrodoka]

You can buy the parts from the manufacturer and save like $5 or you can buy it from a vendor that sells other vanagon parts that can be included to save on shipping. http://www.geneberg.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=vanagon
I have the short shift kit on all 3 of my vanagons and I wouldn't ever go back. I can't think of any con's to this mod other than you will probably see the overall condition of the shifter base parts and will put out money to fix them while you are in there. http://www.volkscafe.com/vanagon_parts.jsp?pa=p&p=1736379396&pct=954307140&ct=908329646

[insyncro]

Wellington,
The difference between the two kits is the diameter of the shaft.
One is 12mm older models and 14mm for 86-91 Vans.

I bought the more cost effective one and it didn't fit my late model Vanagon.

The Gene Berg versions of this system are much better IMHO.

dylan

[tencentlife]

Get it. You'll love it. It's the way the thing should have been built.

I see adding the extension as just lengthening the throw all over again, right after adding the riser to shorten it. Depends on where you like your hands to be, I suppose, but it would just return to a wide pattern, moved higher.
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[Bruce Wayne]

[Wellington]

Thanks Dylan for the info. Look at the second link I posted, it shows the ubit in the package, no extension pictured, just a spacer plate.
Would I be correct to assume either one woulf fit my van if I didn't want an extension?

[insyncro]

Wellington,
I believe that the one you are looking at will fit.
The raiser block is the same for both size shifters.
Give the vendor a call to verify.

df

[kevinbassplayer]

I have the Van-Cafe short shift kit and it rocks!

[doyll]

Think the only difference in them is one is for 12mm and other is for 14mm shifter shaft... IE the sleeve piece that is used to space the shifter cup up the shaft to change the ratio. Not positive as have never compared them side by side.

Not complicated to make kit yourself.

5/8" (maybe more, just guessing from memory) spacer plate to match shifter plate (piece of 5/8" plastic with big hole in center and 2 small holes for bolts/coupling nuts), 3/4" sleeve spacer with tapered in on bottom and beveled on top like in kit (12 or 14mm id), 2 each coupling nuts and bolts.... might be a little hard to find metric coupling nuts. I have CSP installation .pdf is you want it.

Have heard that just moved the spring retention ring up 1/2" works too. Just drill a new depression for set screw in spring retention ring. This lowers the shift lever down 1/2", but peps who did it this way don't seem to have anhy problems.. of course it lowers shift nob 1/2" too. Easy to try as can put it back very quickly to stock. I was given a kit, so didn't try this trick.

[Bruce Wayne]

so I installed the short shift kit from VC yesterday,so far I like it. I have only driven it to the store and back. should get a real feel for it in the coming week on the commute to work and back.also took out the plastic pieces at the base of the shifter and took it all apart and regreased it. what little grease that was left in there was all dried up.feels much better and shifts much smoother now!!

[ejimmi]

I just made one of these. Its definitely worth the $60 if you don't have a lathe and other shop tools.

If you are set up with that type of equipment its a pretty simple project.
You need:
* A 3/4" thick spacer to raise the shifter base.
* Some 3/4" thick threaded standoffs for the floor studs, you will then use bolts to bolt the base to the standoff.
* A 3/4" spacer with outer bevel on one end and inner bevel on the other end, to match the taper on the base of the shifter.

It should be pretty obvious when you get in there, all thats really going on is you are moving the entire pivot point up 3/4".

Results are amazing!

Heres a pic showing the base riser, standoffs, and the beveled spacer at the base of the shift fork.

[goffoz]

[narendra.vw]

I'm using this kit for my TD(14 mm shifter rod).
All it does is, shift pivot point by 10mm. It did help me in fast shifting

[Zeitgeist 13]

Wow, those five speed shift boxes are quite a bit different than four speeds
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[narendra.vw]

The one, on mine is universal, the only choice you have to make is 12 mm or 14 mm shifter rod.
They provide a stopper ring for the rod spring(the ring dia change according to the shifter rod).
It comes with a clear instruction.

[D Clymer]