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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Convertible top boot Reply with quote

Just wondering how many of you with convertibles are using a boot /cover. I wasnt sure wheather to fill in the holes along the back where the snaps were mounted. Did verts come stock with these snaps installed? Thanks !
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they make the car look good with the boot installed, more of a finished look

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use mine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it does look better/cleaner appearance. I can see where the exposed headliner could act as a net catching all kinds of leaves, dust etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't remove the snaps from the body, even
if you have no plans to ever use a boot.
Yes, they were factory installed on new 'verts.

My new-to-me '74 didn't come with a boot,
but I plan to get one soon and use it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a boot. Its almost essential if you have a white headliner. Not using a boot will make it look dirty fast. The boot also will help keep it from drying out and cracking.

I also like the way the boot looks on the car.

If you do get one, take your time with the install. Leave it in the sun for a while as it will be almost impossible to install otherwise. They are tight when new as they stretch over time.

Even after you install it for the first time, I found leaving it in the sun for five minutes before putting it on was needed for the first few months as its very tight. You risk pulling the snaps out of it otherwise.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are holes along the back of the car where the rear window would be. hopefully all the boots install the same so there is no need to fill these in and relocate the holes. Probably best to buy a boot first to make sure?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The boots come with their snaps in a bag.
You install them into the boot material, using
the other part of the snaps on the body
as a guide. A snap install tool and instruction sheet is
usually provided.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghiaddict wrote:
I wouldn't remove the snaps from the body, even
if you have no plans to ever use a boot.
Yes, they were factory installed on new 'verts.

My new-to-me '74 didn't come with a boot,
but I plan to get one soon and use it.


Some were missing snaps so I removed the rest just leaving the holes.
I guess you can purchase new snaps to install to the body? Thanks !
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

72Ghia wrote:
Ghiaddict wrote:
I wouldn't remove the snaps from the body, even
if you have no plans to ever use a boot.
Yes, they were factory installed on new 'verts.

My new-to-me '74 didn't come with a boot,
but I plan to get one soon and use it.


Some were missing snaps so I removed the rest just leaving the holes.
I guess you can purchase new snaps to install to the body? Thanks !


Yes, even a decent upholstery shop will have snaps.
Place a small rubber washer under the body snaps
when you install them, just flush with the edge of the snap.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be very careful when you install the snaps on the body. Some of the screws may screw into a double panel, and the outer sheetmetal will get pulled down and look like a dent.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cover I bought came with a snap kit that includes all pieces.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lair wrote:
Be very careful when you install the snaps on the body. Some of the screws may screw into a double panel, and the outer sheetmetal will get pulled down and look like a dent.


Good tips thanks. I guess it's best to leave power tools alone for that job.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghiaddict wrote:
The boots come with their snaps in a bag.
You install them into the boot material, using
the other part of the snaps on the body
as a guide. A snap install tool and instruction sheet is
usually provided.


That'll work ! . BTW dash arrived this morning. Not bad thanks !
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

72Ghia wrote:
Lair wrote:
Be very careful when you install the snaps on the body. Some of the screws may screw into a double panel, and the outer sheetmetal will get pulled down and look like a dent.


Good tips thanks. I guess it's best to leave power tools alone for that job.


It only happened to me once - when I was installing snaps on a friend's freshly-painted black car.

If he hadn't been standing there watching, I wouldn't have noticed it until it was too late. The snap in question is the one on the left rear corner. May or may not apply to your car, but keep an eye out for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So its the sides that have the double panels which could cause the snap to pull in ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rearmost sides were like that on that car. It was a '69 model, so different years may be different.

There was bound to be some fluctuation in snap location on the assembly line also.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From about 1969 through 1974 all the original body
snap locations we've measured are virtually
the same. Maybe they used a template of some
sort to gain that kind of consistency.
But beware that some DPO may have made some
modifications, for whatever reason. d'oh!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always use the boot when the top is down. I think it just looks more "finished". My car had the top down with the boot installed so much, the boot was actually faded to a charcoal gray from the sun when I got the car.
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Since the boot was in otherwise excellent condition, I simply hung it over a saw horse outside and painted it with a can of flexible vinyl black spray paint and it looks like new again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure why not. It's just something to protect the top anyway.
BTW - that reminds me, pertaining to a previous post. One of the snap mount locations was pulled as someone had mentioned can happen when the screw grabs the second layer of sheetmetal underneath. Quick easy fix by simply twisting a screw in there and pulling it back out with plyers and a block of 2x4 to pry the pliers against. (Say thay 3 times Smile )
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