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stevensj13 Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2011 Posts: 715 Location: Willow Spring, NC and Saugerties, NY
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:40 am Post subject: Any gain from a single 2 barrel? |
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I found a local guy that has a 2 Barrel carb with a chrome one piece high performance intake that was definitally bigger than a stock setup. My question is, will I feel any seat of the pants gain running this setup on a stock 1600 DP motor with an EMPI performance exhaust? I know you guys are gonna try to convince me to do dual carbs but I don't have the money for that just yet
It would be used in a 73 Super Beetle BTW |
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Eric Hodges Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2011 Posts: 95 Location: Simi
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:15 am Post subject: |
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The only gain you can expect from ANY part is how well it's tuned to the rest of your combination. I've read here that the stock carbs on VW are restrictions to hp that can be remedied by bigger stuff.
The Weber progressive is a case of bog, buck or scream. Can you tune a carb? Can you tune the ignition curve? If so, there's a chance the new carb will give you gains. Before that, it will give you pains.
Regards, _________________ '74 Super, worn, becoming DD |
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stevensj13 Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2011 Posts: 715 Location: Willow Spring, NC and Saugerties, NY
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Eric Hodges wrote: |
The only gain you can expect from ANY part is how well it's tuned to the rest of your combination. I've read here that the stock carbs on VW are restrictions to hp that can be remedied by bigger stuff.
The Weber progressive is a case of bog, buck or scream. Can you tune a carb? Can you tune the ignition curve? If so, there's a chance the new carb will give you gains. Before that, it will give you pains.
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Definitally not afraid of carb work, I've got a lot of mechanical experience. I was reading online that with the stock intakes with a double barrel theres no gain. Thats why I was wondering, if with a bigger 1 piece intake (1 piece from the carb mount plate to the mounts on the head) would be capabile of good performance. If not, the guy has a set of rusty dual Kadrons that need a rebuild that I might pick up instead |
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fastfil Samba Member

Joined: November 25, 2006 Posts: 356 Location: Sunshine Coast, AUS
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:21 am Post subject: |
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You should feel a difference -it will only ever really idle on two cylinders, cold starts will suck and warmup will take the whole commute.
Okay, seriously, I say it will pull better from 2500 to 4500 (where you'll be shifting your stock motor right?). You'll also gain a nice throaty intake roar.
I ran a centre mount 40 dcnf for many years and it was rock solid. |
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75smith Samba Member

Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 2275 Location: NH
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:40 am Post subject: |
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what is the 2 barrel carb? I've seen weber dcnf, holley bugspray, and one other(can't remember name) use the chrome intake, weber progressive and IDFs tend to use only the aluminum centermount
but that said, any will work with a little more power as long as you tune it right _________________ My 1975 Beetle Build Updated 8-21-12
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stevensj13 Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2011 Posts: 715 Location: Willow Spring, NC and Saugerties, NY
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Not sure what carb the single 2 barrel is but in checking everything out today around 4:30 5ish and will report back |
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slalombuggy Samba Member

Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9332 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:39 am Post subject: |
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I put a 36mm D'ell on my 1600 single port decades ago. a 284 regrind cam, ported and polished heads, and a Kadron exhaust. I took it off for winter driving. I lost 15mph of top end in my 68 Ghia and it was considerably slower on acceleration.
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spencerfvee Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2004 Posts: 3068
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Any gain from a single 2 barrel? |
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depends who you talk to . you have your die hard dual carb guys . . some guys just dont know how to set up a single carb . no a single carb will not out perform a dual carb set up . but you can make a single carb very street friendly . and still have fun driving . on a stock vw 1600cc motor when you find out what carb this guy has post on this forum and i will tell you how i make a two barrel carb work on the street spencerfvee
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I found a local guy that has a 2 Barrel carb with a chrome one piece high performance intake that was definitally bigger than a stock setup. My question is, will I feel any seat of the pants gain running this setup on a stock 1600 DP motor with an EMPI performance exhaust? I know you guys are gonna try to convince me to do dual carbs but I don't have the money for that just yet
It would be used in a 73 Super Beetle BTW |
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