58b headlight grey-red wiring

[RBurn]

Hello all. Trying to sort out the electrical on my recently acquired 62 Single Cab.

When I got it the lighting condition was as follows.
Running lights
Left rear tail only.

Brake lights
None

Directional, left turn clicked as expected and nothing on right turn. No front bulbs in fried eggs.

Emergency switch. Makes a steady clicking sound

Headlights
High beams only.

So working on the tail lights the right taillight had the ground wire connected to the brake light post and the brake light post connected to the ground. It’s all pretty loose. Begin to read the forum and after using a cheap spade female connector I’m planning to order the correct Open Barrel Non-Insulated German Connectors and crimping tool as I have a few items to fix.

After sorting the taillight wires and looking at the fuse box which had one red fuse in number 5 and the rest white… and obviously looking ok I removed the taillight fuses as they crumbled in my fingers. Ok, new fuses across and the last two red ones.

Driving lights rear OK. Rear brake lights OK.

Moving to the front I noticed a melted wire(s) one connected to headlight switch. After some picts (dang it’s tight in there) I find grey-red connected to 58b and 3” away connects to speedo light right and it appears it travels over to the Speedo light left and then it’s in a larger sleeve with the wire that runs to rear cab interior light and it was hanging down about under fuel gauge and its melted wire. I do not have a clock so the single grey-red comes off the 58b and heads to light up the gauges (2 speedo light and 1 for fuel gauge). I’m thinking someone dropped the fuel grey-red and it shorted between there and 58b.
The speedo light is still illuminating. I made sure the wire is not touching any ground.

So I believe it’s a wire with 4 female connectors. One at 58b and three at the gauge lights?.Can anyone verify this.

I plan to disconnect the battery and drop the headlight switch and remove the grey-red and fish it across and unhook other speedo light and I guess cut the end off and use a fishing line to feed it through the black larger sleeve so I can restore a new wire in the same path.

Is there a way to find similar wire or the same color coated .. source? I found connectors at goodspeed and price seems fair.

I removed head lights and running light wires were broke or cut.. no female connectors and no connector on running light, just gone. Running light wires test good for power with switch on first pull. OK.

Headlights I checked power at high beam switch and it powered white and yellow ok so I checked headlights and one high worked and no low and the other light both high and low worked so the plug was not on well as I rechecked and low and high worked fine. I’ll need to get new connectors on running light bulb and add new brown wire in for a ground to the running light from the existing high low ground screw on the bucket.

So I guess I need to pickup one Wagner H024 headlight and a couple small running lights.

Front fried eggs turn lights have missing bulbs but it’s odd as on on 1st headlight switch I believe one side is constant 12v…. I need to put in some bulbs and I’ll continue on and post back on turn signal issue.

The electrical diagram is great to figure this stuff out. I did see one error I think as the gray-red from 58b goes to first speedo light (in and out are grey-red) and then on entering the second speedo light it says grey in and out and on the last fuel light it’s marked grey-red again?

Back of headlight switch shows 58b to 1st speedo light , no that’s not two wires it’s the wire and separated rubber insulation after shorted and melted.

Other side 2nd speedo light and loose wire suppose to go to fuel gauge light, both melted

Headlight bucket. Bare wire for running light , no ground wire for running light.

Headlight, is this original or?

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67 Beetle deluxe
62 Single Cab
70 T2 Model 221 *CARR FIRE Victim
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[Erik G]

62's didn't have hazard (4 way) flasher so if someone added it, you need to look at how. the factory did it with the 9 prong box you probably don't have, there were a couple other ways to wire it. There is a good description on the type2.com site

headlights never had ground wires, a previous owner did that as well. I've done it in a pinch but it's not hard to do it correctly
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[Eric&Barb]

What is the chassi number??

E-Flasher was stock in mid DEC62 for the 1963 model year and did not use a nine terminal relay that 66-67 did.
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[Eric&Barb]

[adriano]

Maybe I'm wrong, but your fuse box is a late type.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
Could you post more pics of your bus to see the right year, please?

[Eric&Barb]

Hmm, maybe the nose was replaced??
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[Eric&Barb]

Did you double check the birth certificate VIN to the one stamped in the engine compartment?
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[Eric&Barb]

Those plates can be removed via the screws in them. Look for the stamped numbers in the body sheet metal on the right hand side of the engine about eight inches (200mm) forward of the the engine lid.

The below from the 1960-64 replacement owner's manual:

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[Eric&Barb]

VIN looks original. If you see no signs of it being cut and welded in from underneath, then it probably is original to your truck.
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[EverettB]

Some clarification - 62s have the emergency light system, just no light.
The dash light was added in late 1962

Previous post I made in another thread:

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