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ovalvwfan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: Hood seal install. |
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What's the best way to install a new front hood seal. Do I just cram it in there or should I pry up the retaining piece a bit first then tap it back down after the seal is in? _________________ (o\UlU/o) =  |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Cleanout the channel before doing anything. Then start at the top (windshield) and work your way down. Use soapy water and just take your time. _________________ Glenn
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Alan Willis Banned

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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'60 beetles are easy,as its a three piece kit.Slide a flat blade screwdriver down the channel to open it up,use some dish soap to lube the seal.Once installed take a small hammer and lightly tap the ends and center of the channel to hold the seal in place _________________ die schwarzen Schafe #666 |
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ovalvwfan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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So prying isn't required...thank god! And thanks for the advice...will do. _________________ (o\UlU/o) =  |
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ovalvwfan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Wait a minute...so should I pry or not? _________________ (o\UlU/o) =  |
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Alan Willis Banned

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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pry,pry! _________________ die schwarzen Schafe #666 |
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ovalvwfan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Dang...okay. What's the word on my 1800 Alan? _________________ (o\UlU/o) =  |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Alan Willis wrote: |
pry,pry! |
It depends on how rusted and dented the channel is. I had no probblem with my 74. _________________ Glenn
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Alan Willis Banned

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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The factory tapped the corners down slightly.Just slide the screwdriver down the channel,it doesn't take any effort _________________ die schwarzen Schafe #666 |
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Fritter Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Don't pry anything with a screwdriver or another metal bladed tool...you'll screw up the channel and the paint....
As stated, use soapy water on a warm, pliable seal to start. Use a plastic 1.5" spackling knife to help get the seal under the lip. That's it.
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Alan Willis Banned

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Damn,I better not tell my customers how I install their seals I guess  _________________ die schwarzen Schafe #666 |
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ovalvwfan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Got one of the three pieces installed. Wasn't too bad until I got down to the front apron where the lip was in less than perfect shape. I did find it easier if I, not so much pryed, but ran a screwdriver down the inside of the lip with just a little upward pressure first. Probably wouldn't have if my Bug was painted but surely that's a pre-paint job job anyway. As usual, thanks for all the advice. _________________ (o\UlU/o) =  |
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Alan Willis Banned

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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So,you're saying a screwdriverworked without wrecking your channels? _________________ die schwarzen Schafe #666 |
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ovalvwfan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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That's what I'm saying. _________________ (o\UlU/o) =  |
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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OK, now that fitting the seal into the channel has been covered, how do you get the F'ing corners in without just giving up and gluing them ?? You have to get the three tits into the little holes at each corner of the hood, but there is NO room to fit my hand under/around/through the huge hood support hinge. Trying to lube it with Dawn or Astroglide make it too slippery to hang onto - so I have to go at it dry to get some kinda a grip on the underside of the tit that's poking through the hole (what little of it I can feel while contorting myself around that stupid hood support hinge ). I finally coaxed the lowest of the three tits into the hole. As I was trying to work the second one in, the friggin end of the tit pulled off (GRRRRR!! ). While trying to work with what little I had left of it, the first one I had gotten in the hole SHEARED OFF!!! (AAAAGGGGG!!!! :2gunfire: ). Soooo, one full hour wasted AND a brand new hood seal wasted. What's the friggin' trick???? I seem to have no luck with tits !! _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
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drscope Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I went through the same thing until I finally got disgusted and walked over to the tool box, took out my long bent needle nose pliers and pulled those puppies through faster then it took to go get the pliers! _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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drscope wrote: |
I went through the same thing until I finally got disgusted and walked over to the tool box, took out my long bent needle nose pliers and pulled those puppies through faster then it took to go get the pliers! |
I kept saying to myself it would be nice to have a set of long bent pliers, so I may need to make an investment. However, the problem of them shearing off still exists. I wonder if I would have better luck removing the hood (which I'd rather not do)... Also, upon reflection, I think I had a Brazilian seal, not German. I called 3 places today an nobody has the German ones. I wonder if they are less likely to shear than Brazilian (although I already know that German parts are superior to Brazilian in most respects.) _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
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drscope Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I have a can of food grade silicone lube that I spray on the rubber. Helps it slip in. If there is any nub left that you can get a hold on, it should pop through.
If the titty came off completely, it might be time for some contact cement.
I think this may be the first job where I was ever really happy I bought those long needle nose pliers. They get used for other things, but I don't think I ever really needed them for anything else. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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MLTIGGER2 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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What about those tools you use to install window screens? Might work  |
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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MLTIGGER2 wrote: |
What about those tools you use to install window screens? Might work  |
Getting the rubber to slip into the channel is no problem. Just pry up the end that's crimped a bit and slip the new one in using silicone spray. My issue was getting the 6 nubs (3 on each corner of the hood seal) into the holes. I'm hoping the German hood seal has stonger nubs that wont break off during installation or shear off after installation. Of course, I could just cut them off and glue them it, but I want to do it "correctly" by inserting and seating the nubs as they are designed to be. Maybe a combination of German seal, silicone spray and long bent pliers will do the trick. As soon as a German seal comes in, I'll give it a try and report back.... _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
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