Fuel talk capacities.

Skulptorchaz · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:38 pm Post subject: Fuel talk capacities.

Does, say a "72 Ghia have the same fuel capacity as a '62 beetle?? What are they?

Reason I ask is I'm having some interesting times with my tank. The new sending unit seems to be inconsistent and the tank only seems to hold a few gallons.
The new sending unit I got was one that the float went up and down vertcally and the one it came with was on an arm and worked in an arch.
Puzzled....

Thanx.

impaleale · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject:

I'm pretty sure they are the same, if they are not, it's not off by much. Maybe a pint or so. Mine was the angle of the tank. It's steeper than stock. I was at 5/8 ish and the tank reads full. I know the older style has manual float you can adjust, but it does lessen the working compacty of the tank.

BL3Manx · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:52 pm Post subject:

If you want the full capacity, you need to relocate the filler to the top rear of the tank.

You calibrate the quantity indication by bending the arm on the sender

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4576662

Dale M. · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:11 am Post subject:

Tank should hold about 8 gallons... Put gallon jug of fuel in back and go for a drive and record mileage after filling up and see how far it goes till it runs out of gas....

This will tell you how far gauge is off....

If tank sits at a angle other then stock you may only get 6 gallons (or so) of usage though.... If you are doing a "build" be sure to move tank outlet to lowest portion of tank...

I missed adjusted my sender in my build and when it reads 1/4 tank its virtually empty.... Someday I will remove hood and fix it....

Dale
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Skulptorchaz · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:13 am Post subject:

I put the fill neck at the top most drivers side point when building it and then sealed the inside and had it powder coated. I wish I would have known about relocating the outlet. (dang)
I also ran out of gas and have been figuring out my capacity since but the sending unit seems to be erratic. I may have to bite the bullet and get the old style and see if that is better. I wonder if the different angle makes a difference???
On the plus side of the problem, I did figure out that I am getting about 24mpg tho. Smile

Not bad considering how I drive and it's a 1915 with the largest SCAT street cam they have. (SCAT 20006) I love this thing!! Smile

LeeVW · Samba Member Joined: June 14, 2006 Posts: 1016

Buggies seem to vary wildly in fuel tank capacity. Their gauges vary even more. The tank in my buggy sits at an angle, so I can only get about 8 gallons in it. When it's "full", the gauge reads full. When the gauge reads 1/2, I have about 2 gallons left. When the gauge starts moving like crazy when you go around a corner, you had better find a gas station STAT, as you have about 1 gallon left. When the tank is empty, the gauge reads empty.

Based on all this, I run an electronic speedometer with a resetable trip odometer and use miles traveled as my gauge. I found out my range is about 140 miles on a tank using Dale's method, except I forgot to have the gas can on board so I had to have a friend come rescue me. Confused

Lee

Dale M. · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:15 pm Post subject:

Another option...

VWC-111-209-021-F - GENUINE GERMAN - FUEL RESERVE TAP - BEETLE 55-61 / GHIA 56-61

Wish I had done it during my build just for "kicks" (and practicality)...

Dale
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Skulptorchaz · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:50 pm Post subject:

I believe I had one in my '62 back in '76.
My gauge does about like yours, Lee. The difference is can be inconsistent , at times, on what I actually have in the tank. If it would be consistent, even if "off", I'd be OK with it. I guess the problem lies in the sending unit.

SamT · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:33 pm Post subject:

Is a GHia gas tank the same? I have a tank from a 66 GHIA in my buggy I'm building. Its all stock with the stock manual fuel sender and gauge. Stock filling location on the bottom driver side. I was thinking about putting a liner in it (red cote) but I don't want to give up capacity. I was thinking I had read it was 11-12 gallons?

EVfun · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:46 pm Post subject:

Skulptorchaz · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:44 pm Post subject:

I red kote every tank I work on and I work on a several a year. I have a 1912 Simplex fuel tank in my shop right now that was made for the Vanderbilt Family back then. And back then, it cost $16,000.oo. Really rare nice car!

Dale M. · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:17 am Post subject:

wythac · Samba Member Joined: August 02, 2004 Posts: 2791

Impeccable logic strikes again. Some is better than none.

After I got it on the road, I think I ran out of fuel more often in my buggy than I did in all the other cars and motorcycles I've owned, all together. Part of my problem initially was placing the gauge in my dash in a location that wasn't in a high traffic gauge scan area...sometimes I ran out because I just wasn't paying attention.

My car has very consistent mileage, which makes using a trip meter more accurate than my gas gauge. In my Rascal, it is 9.3 gals to EMP-ty. Filler tap is high and on the passenger side, using a later model tank, which helps capacity. I can get maybe another pint of fuel in the car if I find a gas station with a slight grade near the pumps to tilt the rear up, which tells me I'm doing a pretty good job of filling the space available.

Does anybody know if those reserve tank pickups actually have a lower pickup point than one without a reserve tap?

EVfun · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:52 am Post subject:

EVfun · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:01 am Post subject:

Dale M. · Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:18 am Post subject:

And IF we all had moved tank outlets to lowest point in tank like we knew we should have done, and we did not do, most of this discussion would be moot except for gauge sender issue.......

Dale
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