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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:47 am    Post subject: some questions i need answered please Reply with quote

ok gentlemen, removed the body off our 58 and this is what we see. twisted spring plate, both sides about the same amount. the tunnel which we seen before, has a cut in it and the shift rod sits a bit high, and a transaxle from maybe the 60's? any ideas and or fixes would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

post pics of the plates

when installing a 61 up trans in a 59 and earlier chassis you need either an adapter front mount or a early bus nose cone and hockey stick with regular mount.

Back in the day when these conversions were done without the above options some hacking of the pan tunnel was usually required. Ive seen the hack so bad that they cut the vin numbers to clear the shift rod.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

am an idiot with the puter. have to wait till my son gets home and have him do it. thought I could but no.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plates normally twist as part of the suspension movement. The twist comes near the end of suspension travel, as a design feature to give a progressive spring rate-- soft at center for soft ride, stiffer at extremes to prevent bottoming.

I'm no expert but the gallery pic does not look extraordinary to me.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweet. if you click on the gallery then you can see pics. I amaze myself. thanks KTPhil
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned the twist on the spring plates looks normal



On the other hand he extreme hack on the pan, which in the process removed the vin number, has made it useless. Maybe in your state they can re assign a vin but good luck getting that car registered.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Direct link to his gallery pics so you don't have to go looking so hard:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=rob69tam

Spring plates look normal. Without the weight of the body on the car the rear wheels go to positive camber a little more then they normally would otherwise. That puts a little more twist to the spring plates.

The hack on the tunnel needs to be fixed. You may be able to make some special pulling tools that would allow you to get the pieces back in place and weld them back together. Or cut that hack cut out and replace it with new metal.

The VIN may be a problem, but If I knew the history of the car was good and legal I wouldn't have any problem with making up an aluminum plate to cover the hacked area of the vin stamp, and stamping the original VIN onto that. But in sme states they require a VIN inspection and that may not fly.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do have a title and it is already registered in my name so I don't see a problem there. thanks for all the input
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