Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working 1970 Camper - Solved
Forum Index -> Bay Window Bus Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Hatracks
Samba Member


Joined: July 10, 2016
Posts: 677
Location: Renton, WA
Hatracks is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:13 pm    Post subject: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working 1970 Camper - Solved Reply with quote

Getting the bus ready for a week long trip through the PNW and of course the turn signals quit. It started with the left turn signal blowing the fuse, i pulled everything out and checked it all. Couldnt find anything grounding but now the problem is as follows:

Turn signal left or right: lights come on, indicators come on, no flashing
Emergency flashers: lights all come on, indicators come on, no flashing

everything else seems to work, i pulled everything out from behind the dash for easy access and nothing looks like the manual or wiring diagrams. Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction on what to try next, pictures of components attached.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
73 Super Build

70 Westy Build


Last edited by Hatracks on Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:48 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
SGKent Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: October 30, 2007
Posts: 42597
Location: at the beach
SGKent is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working Reply with quote

if 1973-1979 check the hazard switch to see if the top popped loose. That and the symptoms happen to 99% of buses. The top can be zip tied back on. It is a design issue. The hazard switch is hot all the time so disconnect the battery when you get ready to explore.
_________________
"Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - George Carlin


Last edited by SGKent on Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:23 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
busdaddy
Samba Member


Joined: February 12, 2004
Posts: 52817
Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
busdaddy is online now 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working Reply with quote

So many odd colored wires and blue crimps!, there's likely more than one issue at play here....

It's really important to mention the year of your bus when asking electrical questions, or any questions for that matter, your signature line can be edited via your control panel to reflect what you own. I see a chrome signal switch so it's pre 871, and a possible orange fuse box so early to mid 1970 perhaps?

If it's stopped blowing fuses the next thing to try is a correct flasher relay, that shitty silver cylinder isn't doing you any favors.
_________________
Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.

Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!

Слава Україні!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Hatracks
Samba Member


Joined: July 10, 2016
Posts: 677
Location: Renton, WA
Hatracks is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
So many odd colored wires and blue crimps!, there's likely more than one issue at play here....

It's really important to mention the year of your bus when asking electrical questions, or any questions for that matter, your signature line can be edited via your control panel to reflect what you own. I see a chrome signal switch so it's pre 871, and a possible orange fuse box so early to mid 1970 perhaps?

If it's stopped blowing fuses the next thing to try is a correct flasher relay, that shitty silver cylinder isn't doing you any favors.


My fault, 1970 camper that had been severely messed with. Replacing all of the wiring is on my list of things to do next year.

You were correct i grabbed a flasher out of my 66 mustang and swapped it in and it fixed all of the issues. THis one looked brand new to.

KC
_________________
73 Super Build

70 Westy Build
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
germansupplyscott
Samba Member


Joined: May 22, 2004
Posts: 7251
Location: toronto
germansupplyscott is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working Reply with quote

Is your Bus a '70? (looks like maybe it is from the colour of the fuse panel)

Also the signal relay is incorrect. It might work but no year of Bay Bus uses a 2-terminal signal relay.
_________________
SL
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
70bus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: July 15, 2004
Posts: 1415
Location: P.O.
70bus is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working 1970 Camper - Solved Reply with quote

A 70 needs 211-953-215C flasher relay, four prongs. That fact that you had something else means the wiring is likely very chopped up and needs tracing to see what's been modified.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


or equivalents
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Any flasher unit with 49, 49a, K or KBL and 31 will work.
_________________
Craig K
70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams

Raul the 65 singlecab

Karl the 70 nine-seater
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Hatracks
Samba Member


Joined: July 10, 2016
Posts: 677
Location: Renton, WA
Hatracks is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working 1970 Camper - Solved Reply with quote

70bus wrote:
A 70 needs 211-953-215C flasher relay, four prongs. That fact that you had something else means the wiring is likely very chopped up and needs tracing to see what's been modified.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


or equivalents
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Any flasher unit with 49, 49a, K or KBL and 31 will work.



Its all been chopped up, but it all works somehow. This winter I'll likely start over with a speedway minifuse hot rod harness and do the whole thing.
_________________
73 Super Build

70 Westy Build
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
70bus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: July 15, 2004
Posts: 1415
Location: P.O.
70bus is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working 1970 Camper - Solved Reply with quote

Remember the wires in a bus can be longer than a hot rod might need.

Unless you rewire EVERYTHING custom, an option might be to order a stock dash harness and the custom fuse box and wires going to rear. Until then, be gentle with that fuse box. Brittle, and one-year-only. The white versions that don't break are getting impossible to find.
_________________
Craig K
70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams

Raul the 65 singlecab

Karl the 70 nine-seater
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Hatracks
Samba Member


Joined: July 10, 2016
Posts: 677
Location: Renton, WA
Hatracks is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Struggle Bus - Turn Signals quit working 1970 Camper - Solved Reply with quote

70bus wrote:
Remember the wires in a bus can be longer than a hot rod might need.

Unless you rewire EVERYTHING custom, an option might be to order a stock dash harness and the custom fuse box and wires going to rear. Until then, be gentle with that fuse box. Brittle, and one-year-only. The white versions that don't break are getting impossible to find.


yeah everything under there is spliced, i was looking at some bus harnesses that are available instead of going with the hot rod ones. Quite the mess to figure out this winter.
_________________
73 Super Build

70 Westy Build
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Bay Window Bus All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2025, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.