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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: Type 4 in a Type 3? Reply with quote

Anyone know if a type 4 engine will fit neatly into a type 3? Specifically, a squareback? Any examples / photos of this? I tried doing a forum search, but am not finding anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.tunacan.net/t4/tech/type3.shtml

There and stf type4orum has every single answer and yes you can have neat install. Bobnotch has a clean install on his notch.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

supaninja wrote:
Bobnotch has a clean install on his notch.



I thought it was tomnotch...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They both have a type 4 powered notch Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

supaninja wrote:
http://www.tunacan.net/t4/tech/type3.shtml

There and stf type4orum has every single answer and yes you can have neat install. Bobnotch has a clean install on his notch.


Perfect, excellent link.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: type 4 in a type 3? Reply with quote

OF COURSE IT DOES Wink

http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=...3#p1030723

http://s836.photobucket.com/albums/zz283/Angelo_Amato/Fastback/

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lupin..the..3rd wrote:
Anyone know if a type 4 engine will fit neatly into a type 3? Specifically, a squareback? Any examples / photos of this? I tried doing a forum search, but am not finding anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blankmange wrote:
supaninja wrote:
Bobnotch has a clean install on his notch.



I thought it was tomnotch...


No, I have one in my Square-vert too. It's a 1.7L 914 engine. I still have the 2.0L that I took out of it though. Wink Mine's running D-jet. If the OP does a search of my screen name in the Gallery, in the Squareback section, he'll see a few pics there. Cool

It does fit very nicely, only slight trimming of the engine tin (on the left rear corner), and goes into the car almost as easily as a regular t-3 engine. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not hard at all
and i happen to have the plastic bellow part for the conversion for sale

my friend "adamsfasty"
has a T4 in his 70' T3
we got the F.I. and everything else
all we need now is the air flaps and rod for the fan shroud and its good

try to get a Complete engine
tins and ALL
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Her's pics of my type 3 with type 4 engie

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: type 4 in a type 3? Reply with quote

Angelo Amato wrote:
OF COURSE IT DOES Wink

http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=...3#p1030723

http://s836.photobucket.com/albums/zz283/Angelo_Amato/Fastback/

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lupin..the..3rd wrote:
Anyone know if a type 4 engine will fit neatly into a type 3? Specifically, a squareback? Any examples / photos of this? I tried doing a forum search, but am not finding anything.



very nice
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: type 4 in a type 3? Reply with quote

Angelo Amato wrote:
OF COURSE IT DOES Wink

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That is a work of art!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: type 4 in a type 3? Reply with quote

Delaware Dave wrote:
Angelo Amato wrote:
OF COURSE IT DOES Wink

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That is a work of art!


looks damn-near stock, eh?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a GLOVE!!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, fits right in. Here's an old shot of mine.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the look of the manifolds on these engine Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Transmission Support Reply with quote

Nate M. wrote:
Like a GLOVE!!

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How long have you been running this configuration? I ask because I see you are running a stock IRS sub rather than doing the conversion. Any issues with flex?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

conversion???

the 411 (originally what the T4 engine came in)
was an IRS and i will tell you owning both
they are not that different
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I mean they are different
but not enough to "flex" stuff
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The extra weight/tq of a Type 4 motor will flex SA's frame horns...a lot. On a IRS type 3 I have no idea what is going to flex, how are rear hangers going to flex?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hanger wont, but those pesky spot welds and pissy engine bay sheet metal will.

I have seen plenty of cracked/split engine bay metal from just stock 1600.

SA frame with kafer bars is best Cool


or how about SA frame, kafer bars and rear hanger. The ultimatenessly bestest ! !!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll one up you Vlad Wink

Berrin Chromoly frame horns
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rear hanger with the vanagon rubber mounts (there are 4 of them)
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