bra or no bra?

0to60in6min · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: bra or no bra?

hi all,

my vanagon came with a bra... I don't like it... my wife likes it, she wants to keep it on, I want to take it off...

question: what is the percentage of blocked air to radiator with a bra? 50%? 30%?

yeah... please laugh words... Laughing

thanks,

Bassyaks · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject:

It will also scuff the paint, but if your wife wants to keep her bra on, that's her choice Shocked

I couldn't help it!!

Steve

Timwhy · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject:

I bought a bra for my Westy and I think it's a good addition. The trouble with the
bra is leaving it on the van. If it gets wet, then it will retain moisture and under the
bra you may develope some rusting issues. When you are on the road, I think it's
real value is there. Keeps bug guts and rocks off your front end, not to mention anything
going into your radiator. You can always compromise and use it when it's good weather
and you are going on a trip?
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j_dirge · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:26 pm Post subject:

Hate 'em..
But they do save the front end from rocks,... some.
I do not recall any cooling issues when it was on.

I took mine off 10 yrs ago. And have LOTS of deep paint chips to show for it. Dozens.
If my paint were perfect.. or really really nice.. I'd probably use it again.
But as noted, the edges can scuff the paint..

If you do decide to use one, lay down some wax before installing the bra.. and clean it regularly.
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DAIZEE · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject:

My experience with bra on a white compact was it wrecked the hood but I never took it off and never looked under it when washing. I'm against them BUT with the Vanagon and because you already have it, use it for highway trips, take off to dry and clean. So don't burn your wife's bra. Sorry couldn't resist. Just don't wear it all the time.
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lwhiting · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: Liberation!!!!!

My wife likes the bra, I don't......PO had moisture get behind the bra and turned paint milky. Needed a respray.....So, I remain a no-bra-er...

Love My Westy · Samba Member Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 1899

Mine has had a Bra on it for the whole time I've owned it. Since it is exclusivly a road machine, I know it has saved a lot of paint chips and the inherent rust that goes with them. It shows a few skuffs near the outer edges, but, after 25 years, those paint chips can really add up. I wish there was some sort of bra for the windshield. I keep having to replace it.

IdahoDoug · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject:

Full disclosure: I own a company that installs 3M ClearBras and headlamp protection.

The vinyl bras generally do as much damage as they protect against. So it would be a wash financially, except that you're paying for the bra as well, so generally a negative investment. At some point in the future, I'll be offering a Samba deal on 3M headlight protection - precut headlight covers. Unfortunately, not a good idea to do that for a bra as they're actually pretty difficult to install and have it look good.

If you have a vinyl bra, be sure to remove it and clean and dry it after washing the car, after driving in the rain, or after driving in dusty conditions. Er, pretty much remove it after driving. The question was asked how much air do they block - I didn't know they went over air openings?

DougM
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j_dirge · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject:

IdahoDoug · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject:

PS - there is a windshield film I tested and liked. I'll find the name. They last a couple years and can take quite a whack with no glass damage. Eventually they start to get wiper lines, but if you're careful not to run them dry you might stretch it to 4 years. I ...... still can't remember the name so I'll keep typing. The film is from Utah - Clearplex. There, got the name. Tough to put on properly.

DougM
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masuda · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:09 pm Post subject:

3M Clear Bra /Lamp Covers leaves nothing to the imagination Wink

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Ask Idaho Doug

speedtek · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject:

Get rid of it, they destroy your paint......this is the result of the PO leaving a bra on for an extended period of time. Don't ask me why the passenger corner came out all right Confused

, everywhere else is crap.

snoop · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject:

Better without the bra.
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kamzcab86 · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject:

No cooling issues whatsoever with mine.

VisPacem · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject:

If any of you guys who are so dissatisfied with your bras want to get rid of it for a modest price, please pm me. I could use one for other purposes that they were intended.

Thanks
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snoop · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject:

PM sent.
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speedtek · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:01 pm Post subject:

Zero419 · Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:45 am Post subject:

I don't get it.

Cover up your car to protect it so it will look nice?

Even if it works (which people have just proven that they don't) you can't see the nice protected paint because there is a big black veil covering it.
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ajdenette · Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:09 am Post subject:

I think the bra may have been used to cover the issues on the grey van as the po's (aka my parents) had a bra on our van 24/7/365 for many years though it was put on the last time after body work from an accident the only issues from the bra were from the velcro put below the lower grill, and some bubbling of the paint from cracks.
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