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dwheelie
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 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: air cleaner |
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Hi, I am thinking of removing the air cleaner and replacing it with a simple round filter. Can anyone recommend which one should I get that will fit? And what to do with that U shape oil breather pipe? Thanks
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robclark63
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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You will probably be better with the one that is on there...it might look big and bulky but it is the best one for your engine...just my 2 bits...
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Bodyzoom
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| Bughaus has a great supply. If you are going to replace it will you sell me the one you have? |
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djkeev
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dwheelie
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. Yes, I know factory is better. But, as you can see, most tubes going in and out are disconnected and who knows for how long. Charcoal hoses are also been off I am guessing for a long time. I am thinking if connecting all will actually be worst? The car runs pretty good as is. Just not sure which way to go. |
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cletus_zuber
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Man, I'd almost advise you to get one of the cone types, get rid of that disconnected original probably never been changed air filter element loose fitting clamp, and get one of those "cone type" cleanable, oilable" filters for 10.99 from many vendors.
Since your preheat hoses and heater hoses are already disconnected its obvious you don't need them so the cheap solution is OK.
best option: get a decent oil bath from the classifieds or swap meet. |
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Joel
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Keep the stock one
Pancake filters are for looks only.
All you need to do is hook that charcoal canister hose back to its spigot on the air cleaner before the fan or fanbelt eats it
Oh and fit some breastplate tinware before that engine grenades
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Notice that you haven't got a rain tray so every drop of rain that hits goes through the vents and onto the engine.
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It's not supposed to have one
when will people realise they were only meant for single port non doghouse engines which stopped in 1970 
Those stupid rain deflectors block too much air flow to doghouse duel port engines hence why the factory never fitted them
any bug after 70 that has one has been fitted by PO thinking they are doing the right thing keeping water off the engine, not realising
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jhicken
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. Yes, I know factory is better. But, as you can see, most tubes going in and out are disconnected and who knows for how long. Charcoal hoses are also been off I am guessing for a long time. I am thinking if connecting all will actually be worst? |
That has got to be the lamest logic I've heard in a long time. Why not focus your efforts on putting it back together the way it should be and start by replacing the front tin.
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19super73
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Gary
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| Notice that you haven't got a rain tray so every drop of rain that hits goes through the vents and onto the engine. |
Even if he wanted one, they don't work on the 4 vent lids. |
You have to consider the source. Parrots and self-appointed experts are like that.
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djkeev
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Gary wrote: |
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| Notice that you haven't got a rain tray so every drop of rain that hits goes through the vents and onto the engine. |
Even if he wanted one, they don't work on the 4 vent lids. |
You have to consider the source. Parrots and self-appointed experts are like that. |
I was pointing out that any water headed towards those vents without a rain tray or similar rain shield is going to the top of the carburetor and with a crappy air filter into the carb. The STOCK air filter provides that needed rain protection.
Never said it was supposed to have a rain tray and that it was missing, this is a conclusion that you (I'll use Gary's words here) " Parrots and self appointed experts" jumped to, I simply said, and I quote....
"Notice that you haven't got a rain tray...."
Maybe, just maybe, some of you should focus your energies on developing a little more reading comprehension and become a little less keyboard happy (ready to instantly point out the wrong in others).
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torsionbar
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the little taiwanese made round ones are junk. dont bother. your original vw one is far better in every measurable way.
edit> also replace your missing tinware and fresh air hoses, they are important.
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gt1953
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Stock filter all of the way. Look in the classified and some pictures of the 73 stock engine. Replace the rear tin in the the engine rear is rear.
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Madtat
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If you replace the air filter keep the stock one, put it in a box and forget about it. Should you want to back to stock you still got it. Oh and....move your fuel filter.  |
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68IHscout
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| I got a rain tray in my 74sb that I installed cause rain was getting into either the dist or wetting the coil wires ,all though the center is not covered by the rain tray my car stopped giving me trouble since then I may add the original air cleaner didn't fit so I went to a nice 68 type oil bath all is good fits like a glove,..just my 2 cents worth |
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torsionbar
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| I got a rain tray in my 74sb that I installed cause rain was getting into either the dist or wetting the coil wires ,all though the center is not covered by the rain tray my car stopped giving me trouble since then I may add the original air cleaner didn't fit so I went to a nice 68 type oil bath all is good fits like a glove,..just my 2 cents worth |
there is supposed to be a plastic 'dust cover' inside the distributor. it fits underneath the rotor and completely covers the points. this cover keeps the water off the points. it sounds like maybe you are missing this cover.
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=IGP0005&cartid=1216201043271702 |
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djkeev
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[Maybe, just maybe, some of you should focus your energies on developing a little more reading comprehension and become a little less keyboard happy
Dave |
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Ok, first thing, if you are going to quote, don't go misquoting and editing a quote to make your negative comment look good.
You left out a very important piece of what I said. I almost wish we didn't have the power to edit quotes for this reason.
My posts are not telling people how stupid they are. They are mainly trying to help, offering ideas, correcting wrong information other's have posted, at times admitting I posted wrong information apologizing and correcting it, and posting on my car restorations. I also try to finish a thread I start, or am involved in, trying NOT to create more abandoned loose ended topics. I often answer the question asked YET AGAIN by a newbie (or a lazy regular) trying to help and encourage. I do a little bit of social chat and then I respond to idiotic posts like this one right now, this is a very combative forum, this crap happens too much.
For example, on this air cleaner post, this is my 3rd post, why? Because of comments made that have no relevance to the topic that "needed" a reply. I was good with just one post, it should have stopped right there.
If anyone feels the need to put me down or criticize me, remember what you agreed to.....
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Have I ever criticized or been negative to others? Of course I have, I'll be honest with you, I've been pissed off at times.
As a rule I try hard not to tear down and belittle though.
I was attacked on this topic because someone (who I've never met but seems a tad self righteous and I've noticed tends to frequently attack and belittle people, almost as a sport) misread what I posted. My answer about the air cleaner was sound and contained no mis-truth.
If I bother you or anyone else, you do have the option of blocking me, just click on my online ID and add me to your ignore list.
I'm done here.
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vw_hank
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if it was my car id be looking for a oil bath 
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68IHscout
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| I got a rain tray in my 74sb that I installed cause rain was getting into either the dist or wetting the coil wires ,all though the center is not covered by the rain tray my car stopped giving me trouble since then I may add the original air cleaner didn't fit so I went to a nice 68 type oil bath all is good fits like a glove,..just my 2 cents worth |
there is supposed to be a plastic 'dust cover' inside the distributor. it fits underneath the rotor and completely covers the points. this cover keeps the water off the points. it sounds like maybe you are missing this cover.
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=IGP0005&cartid=1216201043271702 |
it is installed , I checked it to make sure it fit and was installed correctly wich it was... never did find out what was causing it,.. |
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