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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:03 pm    Post subject: Stainless steel bolt kits Reply with quote

64 vert restro starts next week and i need some help. Ok the only site I can find the info for this is http://www.volksbolts.com/. Does anyone know of any places in the good ole USA that sells em? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last SS VW Bolt kit I got was from Totally Stainless.

http://www.totallystainless.com/

I would not recommend their kits for important suspension areas but fenders and running boards and the like are just fine. Their bolts in my kit are a mix of China and other countries. Some of them break with less torque than a grade 2. Also their cooling tin screws are not real cheese heads and are self taping. I bought mine years ago and they might have better bolts nowadays, who knows.
IMPORTANT: Use "Goop" brand SS antiseize for all your SS fasteners to prevent breaking bolts when removing them.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that the quality of bolts varies wildly. Sadly those coming from unknown sources, particularly from overseas tend to be poor.
Many industries (such as amusement rides and any auto manufacturer) do NOT allow the use of fasteners from generic uncertified sources, such as Home Depot and similar stores.

Note also that Stainless is a weak fastener for bolt strength and also comes in various stainless quality levels. Also note that stainless WILL corrode and also can cause a host of problems just like rusty ferrous metal causes.

Stainless is NOT a magic bullet by any means. NEVER use stainless in any location that is safety related such as suspension and steering as well as brakes!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For loaded mechanical areas ; like on the suspension / steering / axles etc its best to use a 10:9 or 12:9 graded item and NOT Stainless Steel - unless its a strong (and hard to find) Duplex Alloy.

Most parts will be A2-70 - which is not that far from an 8:8 regular steel item - so good for most benign things like wing fitting, door hinges, light fittings etc.

Volksbolts sell all of the correct 10:9 and 12:9 parts in addition to the Stainless Steel bits.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being one who uses stainless fastners and stainless steel 304/316 daily for equipment that is submerged in water it is important to use nickle based (silver not gold colored) instead copper based ant-sieze. For stainless on stainless tends to gall up fairly easy. Just my 2c
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=881048
LanD Products.
I've used these parts in alot of areas, and assembled my own stainless and finishing pieces from the local ACE.. They are nice--and they are obviously VW friendly..
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips guys I appreciate it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a local Fastenal store, you will crap when you see what all they have on the shelves and its cheap..... I am heading there this morning to pick up some ss bolts/nut/washers for my bumper brackets.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I order all of my bolts from McMaster-Carr. They have everything you could imagine and they ship very fast.
www.mcmaster.com

i replace all my flat head screwdriver tin bolts with stainless steel hex head bolts and washers from Mcmaster-carr. they are also half the price and never rust.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed mamotorworks.com has a set for 39.00 not sure if anyone has used them before. Thoughts from any takers?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually just lurk around here but there's so much misinformation in this thread I feel I need to respond. I have used Totally Stainless bolt kits from when they first offered them (that's way back when they had a vendor booth in Manassas) and the quality has always been excellent. The cheese head screws were never self tapping and I've not broken a single bolt. If you didn't like the cheese head screws you got, did you bother calling them? They may have packed the wrong screws in your case. I know they make things right without any hassle. They've always made it clear in their catalog and in person that their bolts and screws are 304 stainless which is about grade 2 and that stainless is not suitable for critical suspension components. Neither is chrome, by the way. Any questions I've had about the product I've just asked and they are more than willing to help. Ask for Doc, he's the owner and has engineering background. They also have some high strength metric stainless, but I've never needed it. And I've never ever had their bolts rust. It's the steel the stainless bolts screw into that rusts and makes it look like the bolts have rust on them. You just wipe it off. I really like how they separate the bolts in the packaging and label everything. I don't think you can find that anywhere else, certainly not McMaster-Carr (which I've never found to be cheaper, but I haven't checked recently). McMaster-Carr doesn't have near as good a selection (which is probably why someone would choose to use hex head screws in their tin instead of cheese head screws) and according to Doc (I've asked), no matter where you buy stainless bolts, they usually all come from the same sources since there are a limited number of manufacturers in the world and practically none of them are in the US. Like I said, if you have questions, just ask him. He likes talking about stainless and usually gives you more information than you need.
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