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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:30 am    Post subject: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

Hello,

This is my first post at TheSamba. I recently purchased an all original 1985 Westfalia Vanagon w/ 107k miles.

I live up in Alaska (Anchorage) and am looking for a way to power the Westfalia fridge, block heater, some lights, and my electronics (Laptop + camera + cellphone).

What is the advantage of having an Aux Battery vs. A Generator? Would it make more sense for me to get a generator (HONDA EU2200i) vs. an Aux Battery?

Thank you in advance for the responses!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

Welcome!!!

The original fridge runs on "shore power" propane and 12v while driving
Just fill your propane tank.

To power the other stuff, get 12v power adapters for each item.
Add a house battery which can charge by the alternator and/or add some solar panels.

Too much power loss converting 12v to 120.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

Extra battery is nice no noise, no set up ECT. You can run fridge off propane. Block heater probably would necessitate having a generator. I would get big aux battery and carry a small generator like 1000 watt, you can find nice ones for under $300. Then get battery charger.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

@Ahmed is there a specific battery that you recommend?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

@djkeev is there an easy DIY to install an Aux Battery hooked up to an Alternator?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

You need to run an electrical use analysis

Loads
Time in use
Time between driving
Time between charging

to make this decision.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

I used two cheap 125 amp hour battery's from Walmart. The Wallmart batteries are 125 amp hours each. These batteries are on the bottom shelf and are heavy duty started bateries used for trolling engines. Max something. You need to go to a superwalmart not a regular one. The fit on the side of the bench oposite the galley. One fits parallel to the slider the other perpendicular. The need to sit on a shelf made by 2x4. It will look like a L and you will have some space left over for tool storage. Uses about half of the space. Will try to take picture Blue sea makes a good combiner that will allow you to charge from alternator.

Here's one do a search and you'll find many more.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

I'd think aux battery and generator are complement to each other... not replacing each other.

- aux battery is quiet but when it's down and you have no shore power to charge it ... you have to run your engine to recharge it, but for how long?

- generator is noisy, alone by itself it's nuisance to other campers...

get both ... if you plan to go camping where there's no way to recharge the aux battery get a tiny super quiet portable generator.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

The block heather is going to need a generator everything else would only need a extra battery. Are you really camping when it is so cold you need a block heater. I am soft I won’t camp under 40 degrees F but in Alaska you might have a different idea of camping. John
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

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Extra battery is nice no noise, no set up ECT. You can run fridge off propane. Block heater probably would necessitate having a generator. I would get big aux battery and carry a small generator like 1000 watt, you can find nice ones for under $300. Then get battery charger.

I agree with you, Ahmed.

For me the answer is easy, extra battery, maybe even two.

Alaska and block heater probably changes the equation though. I guess is depends on how remote and how cold you are going to be.

I will tell you in my experience the Honda generators are worth every penny, and they demand a lot. Im a CHEAP ass but this is one place I wouldn't skimp. I've been around some large ones that are amazingly quiet. The under $300 generators may work fine but you will hear them clanking, banging, squeeking and rattling as is typical with Chinese "quality".
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: Advantage of Aux Battery vs. Generator Reply with quote

Welcome Mavrickyaboot! I'd suggest both aux battery setup and generator. With the aux battery you can run usb type electronics for a while, LED lighting, your sink water pump, etc. You can recharge the aux batteries with a solar panel or two. If you're looking at heaters whether block heaters, space heaters, air conditioner units, etc. you'll want a generator if you don't have access to shore power.

Honda's are the gold standard of generators. There are some generators out on the market that are sub $500 (not including tax) for 2,000 watt units. I picked up a Champion 2,000 unit to run the portable air conditioner unit while camping, and so far it's doing a pretty good job. Time will tell if it's as durable/reliable as the Honda units.
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