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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Will an 85 Vanagon Sliding Door fit a 90 Vanagon? Reply with quote

Does anybody know?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a search; this topic has been brought up. I know there are differences in the early to mid 80's, but I'm going by memory.

The search should help you. Here's one I found by searching "sliding door":

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=295375&highlight=sliding+door
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it won't---

80 to 85 are all the same, 86 to 90 share all the same hardware & mounting points.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1985 was the transition year, I have a 1985 with the later style door, so you will have to check yours and see which one you got.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellington is correct. If the '85 door in question has the short outside door handle (easy identifier), it will fit. The earlier '85 doors had the early style long handle and therefore the early style latches, guides, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loogy wrote:
Wellington is correct. If the '85 door in question has the short outside door handle (easy identifier), it will fit. The earlier '85 doors had the early style long handle and therefore the early style latches, guides, etc.


Hmm, so what's the handle measuremnet for the short version?

I mean, I got a handle, but without the "other" version to compare it to, how do I know if it's the short one or the long one?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fairly easy to fit a late slider on an early van or vice versa
just need small mods to the latch area of the pillars!
dosn't take long! couple of hours should do it

opening size is the same
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hiram6 wrote:
loogy wrote:
Wellington is correct. If the '85 door in question has the short outside door handle (easy identifier), it will fit. The earlier '85 doors had the early style long handle and therefore the early style latches, guides, etc.


Hmm, so what's the handle measuremnet for the short version?

I mean, I got a handle, but without the "other" version to compare it to, how do I know if it's the short one or the long one?

So to speak. Cool


I don't have a short handle to measure, but a long handle is approx. 21cm (8.25") overall.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellington wrote:
1985 was the transition year, I have a 1985 with the later style door, so you will have to check yours and see which one you got.


That means your van is an 85.5 which Volkswagen (as well as its high end Audi models) is famous (infamous?) for doing; it leads to a lot of head scratching at times.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the 85 door handle against yours- If it's a match, then it works, right? Wish there was a place to get a used Vanagon part within 50 miles of Spokane.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pot luck on an 85 door fitting.
If you can get the build date of the donor Van--sometimes they'll fit, sometimes they won't.

Depends on what inventory they line was using that day--late door's & hardware or early hardware--
Whatever they happen to have at that time.

You could remove & replace allof the lastch mechansim, & striker plate off of a later modal Van and maybe get it to work.
I have never seen this happen though--
The mounting screw holes aren't lined up right to accept the later hardware in the early door.

You'd be much better off bumping your side door find to an 86--then it will fit for sure.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChesterKV wrote:
Wellington wrote:
1985 was the transition year, I have a 1985 with the later style door, so you will have to check yours and see which one you got.


That means your van is an 85.5 which Volkswagen (as well as its high end Audi models) is famous (infamous?) for doing; it leads to a lot of head scratching at times.

- Chester


I think I recall my manufacture date as August. What i do know, I got the later slider door, plastic coolant pipes front to rear, tachometer, rear wiper, however, it has a 1.9litre (for now) ceramic fuses as opposed to blade, and has the early uprights front suspension. Ya ,they mix and match, makes it fun to get parts. Sorry for the hijack, it 's just interesting to see that it's not exactly defined when you need parts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those of us with an 85 should have our own support group.

"Hi, I'm Hiram, and I own a transition year Westy" "Hi, Hiram"

Seriously, it does make it a challenge to find the right part sometimes, but I look at it like this.

While I may have the old style fuses (-), I also have the round headlights (+).

While I have the 1.9L (-), I've got some stouter engine internals (+).

While I've got steel pipes (-), hey I've got UNRUSTED steel pipes (+)

I've got the tach, the rear wiper etc., but it's obvious, as Terry said, VW just grabbed whatever was on the shelf to attach to the van sitting in front on them on the assembly line at that moment. Kind of like each one is a custom job!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Door compatability and differences Reply with quote

I had to replace my slider a few months ago. I have an '85 and it is the newer style, and the door I found fit fine. I did have had a chance to compare the two styles, though, and there seem to be these differences between early and later doors: Different handle size; different latch on the front end of the door and pillar; different latch on the rear end of the door and pillar; different size window. The window on earlier doors is the same size as the driver side window. The window on later doors is about an inch narrower left to right. Does anyone know why the window size changed when they changed the doors? I haven't looked very closely at the inside without the interior panels on, but it seems that the hardware is all below the windows, so I don't see the reason for the change.

Also, others have mentioned swapping earlier and later doors. It may only take a few hours, but it would require welding the rear latch pin on, and welding is a skill that some of us have not yet acquired (but I hope to learn.)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Door compatability and differences Reply with quote

erdonline wrote:
Also, others have mentioned swapping earlier and later doors. It may only take a few hours, but it would require welding the rear latch pin on...


I'm resurrecting an old thread to see if anyone has photos and more specific information for this conversion. I haven't had much luck with finding info by searching... I do remember someone saying it was quite difficult and not worth making the switch, but this thread makes it sound like its not that big a deal.

My main interest in this is that the wife and kiddo have a really hard time opening the '84 long throw latch, and the newer doors are easier...I'm going to try to rehab the latch this spring, and put on yet another new handle and see how that works...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, the earlier rear latch mounting spot different than later so not switchable.
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