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jimeg Samba Member

Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 510 Location: PNW
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: External oil cooler - Setrab or ? air cooled Westy |
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I'm wanting to install an external oil cooler on my 82 AC Westy.
The Setrab looks like the best performer. It also has a fan, which makes sense to me for when I'm stuck crawling on I-5 in the summer.
After a few hours of Samba searching, my conclusion for best cooling performance is a Setrab with fan located up front.
Am I missing anything? Is this the one, and is the front the ideal location? I saw Tencentlife's unit too, which looks like it is for water cooled engines....?? No fan though. Maybe not necessary? I'd rather spend a little more on a quality set up, but at the same time I don't want to spend more than I need to.
Thanks
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Randy in Maine Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| They are normally mounted just forward of the transaxle. Mounting up front is a lot of hose to deal with. |
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netcruzer Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2010 Posts: 61 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:14 am Post subject: |
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If you add an external oil cooler, does it take longer for the engine to reach normal operating temp?
I've read a lot about how important having a working thermostat/flaps are, in order to get a fast warmup and avoid startup wear. Would adding an external cooler cause longer warmups and potentially more long term long warmup damage?
I'm curious, as I'm also a recent AC owner, with everything stock and no gauges... so I'm totally in the dark as to what temps everything is running at start, idle, load, etc. _________________ '82 Air-Cooled Vanagon Westfalia |
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jimeg Samba Member

Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 510 Location: PNW
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| I would install a thermostat that would bypass the cooler until the oil reached temperature. Much like a water cooled thermostat. That is my understanding. There are certainly more qualified people on this site to explain it, but I believe this is how it works. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12177 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:13 am Post subject: |
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There's no way I would run an oil cooler without a thermostat. Here's an interesting option I'm exploring, which is the stock Volvo 740 turbo setup. It includes a sandwich plate with internal thermo. I picked up the complete package w/hoses for $17
_________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH
'01 Weekender --> full camper
NEAT, no ICE. |
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bignut Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2006 Posts: 39 Location: La habra, ca
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: |
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the volvo sandwich looks like its the way to go, will it fit the aircooled motor? _________________ Tim Ding |
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jimeg Samba Member

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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12177 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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At this point I still have no clue whether it will fit any application other than what it was intended for originally. Theoretically it should fit most engines with a spin-on filter, assuming the sandwich plate and hoses won't interfere with adjacent peripherals. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH
'01 Weekender --> full camper
NEAT, no ICE. |
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wildenbeast Samba Member

Joined: April 04, 2008 Posts: 680 Location: Colorado
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a914622 Samba Member

Joined: July 29, 2004 Posts: 952 Location: Westend of HWY2 , Wash
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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There's no way I would run an oil cooler without a thermostat. Here's an interesting option I'm exploring, which is the stock Volvo 740 turbo setup. It includes a sandwich plate with internal thermo. I picked up the complete package w/hoses for $17
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Just a note, the bmw auto trans cooler lines at the radiator , fit the themal plate of the Volvo. I use that set up on my turbo diesel caddy.
The clamps in the pic are bandit-clamps. The fittings on the bandit side are the bmw ones.
jcl _________________ 87 gl powerd buy 2.5subaru
75 914 getting 2.2t subaru scratch that SVX subaru |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12177 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, now that I think of it, your Caddy was probably the inspiration that prompted me to pick up the Volvo setup. Of course, you also inspired me to recently buy my 944 steering wheel, too. Thanks! _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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