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thomast Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:19 am Post subject: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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I have a new sending unit in my 86 Syncro w/SVX and since the install, when I fill the tank, it only reads 1/2 full. I just completed a 2000+ mile trip and it was consistent the entire trip. I thought maybe after a few fills it would correct itself (wishful thinking!). Any ideas what might be the issue?
Thanks! _________________ 1986 Westy Syncro SVX
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:27 am Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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The sender is the issue. I have the same problem. I have the old sender too, but that job is a PITA so I'm just gonna tolerate my wonky gas gauge and try to remember to use the trip odometer for double checking. _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 18748 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:28 am Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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Did you buy the aftermarket sender or the VDO one? GW accidentally sent me the aftermarket one and while it fit, it was completely wrong on the sweep. I contacted GW and they noticed their mistake and sent me the VDO OE one.
Fortunately I had the tank out and was able to watch the sender float move through it's range.
It would be difficult, but you may have somehow looped the return hose over the float.
Check the orientation too. There are photos in the gallery showing the correct orientation. I believe the return tube is at about 2 o'clock. Hope that is of some help. |
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dschaftlein Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:48 am Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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I recently installed an aftermarket sending unit from Cip1. It Doesn't work at all.
I still need to find the time to troubleshoot. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator

Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32988 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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thomast Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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Thanks for the replies. It's an aftermarket sender.
djkeev - From a full tank (reading 1/2), the gas gauge travels down to empty and sits on empty for an additional 100+- miles. I never ran out, but would fill up usually putting in about 16 gallons. I think the tank is just over 18 gallons.
Guess I'll go read all the remove/install sending units without removing the tank threads... _________________ 1986 Westy Syncro SVX
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12167 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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D'oh, I recently replaced a Syncro fuel sender with an aftermarket unit from GW, and it didn't fix the dead gauge issue. It needed to be replaced due to rust, but I assumed it would also fix the inop situation. Wrong assumption, which might be compounded by an iffy unit. FML _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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MarkWard Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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If you unplug the sensor with the key on, jump the sensor connector and the gauge should peg full. There is a thread about gauge testing without the factory tool using specified resistance. Hard to add links on my cell phone. |
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Bassyaks Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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I still have 8 gallons once the needle reaches "E" , the job sucks so I live with it. |
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outwesty Samba Member

Joined: June 06, 2006 Posts: 1078 Location: Northern Sierras
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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The JP aftermarket syncro sending units are garbage. I made the mistake of installing one when I couldn't get the VDO one. Tschroeder0 had the connector on his break off while on a trip which caused a fuel leak and he had to JB weld it on to get home. Getting them to read correctly is another story. Hook it up to your meter. The range will be far off from the VDO one. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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MarkWard wrote: |
If you unplug the sensor with the key on, jump the sensor connector and the gauge should peg full. There is a thread about gauge testing without the factory tool using specified resistance. Hard to add links on my cell phone. |
I bought a variable resistance tool just for that task, based on a recommendation in that thread. I'm just pissed that I'm fighting this fix on two fronts now, when I paid good money to resolve one front. Why does GW consistently do this? They still sell Meyle coolant reservoirs, when they know the units are a ticking timebomb _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:27 am Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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Bassyaks wrote: |
I still have 8 gallons once the needle reaches "E" , the job sucks so I live with it. |
Haha exactly. I know it doesn't read right but after the needle sits in E for awhile I'll get too anxious about it and fill up. Always ends up being 12.xx gallons. _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
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MarkWard Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:42 am Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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I get that it's a pain to deal with. For those that might come across this thread. Aside from my tip above to check for full sweep of the fuel gauge, you can take your new sender out of the box and plug it into the van. Work the float across the range and the gauge should full sweep.
The problem I ran into with the aftermarket sender was that the orientation was such that installed the float was not square to the top and the bottom of the tank. I had the tank out and could look in the filler neck hole with a flashlight and see the sweep was wrong. I could have "straightened" it with minor effort I believe, but at the time I thought I had purchased the the VDO one.
So, it's not that the aftermarket sender won't work, but might need some massaging assuming the manual test of it is good. All to often aftermarket parts seem to need massaging. The details are the tolerances. Exact tolerances cost more time. I don't fault a reseller. Unless customers let them know what is going on, how would they know? It just sucks that the syncro is assembled at the factory around the fuel tank. |
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dgbeatty Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2006 Posts: 702 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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There is a very similiar LOOKING sender from another VW model that fits just fine. Trouble is the resistance readings when operated are reversed. Carefully study the part number and test the sender before installing one. _________________ Schau in das Buch |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7191 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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dgbeatty wrote: |
There is a very similiar LOOKING sender from another VW model that fits just fine. Trouble is the resistance readings when operated are reversed. Carefully study the part number and test the sender before installing one. |
Back when the Syncro sender was almost NLA. I looked at similar VDO units. The early Vanagon 2WD ( NLA, all metal) are very close as well as the Bay window units. It would take a lot of work to transfer it on the Syncro particular plate though... _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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holdthewind2 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: New Syncro Sending Unit - Only reading 1/2 full on a full tank |
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MarkWard wrote: |
It just sucks that the syncro is assembled at the factory around the fuel tank. |
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that is not only funny, i think it must be true _________________ 65 deluxe
89 Syncro Westfalia
90 Tristar Syncro |
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