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south_island_surf
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: '65 Single Cab (and rotisserie) build Reply with quote

Hey Samba,

My name's Art, I've been a member since '04. Since then I've been looking off and on for a project, and finally got one in March of this year. Bought the truck in Vancouver (from Alp, a member here), and I live in Victoria, BC.

The truck had been sandblasted and bodywork started probably over ten years ago. The project began in North Carolina, then moved to Washington, where Alp picked it up. He ended up with too many projects, so I took it off his hands...

At the ferries on the way home:
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Home:
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As it sat for several months while I finished some projects around the house:

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New parts that came with it:

-Klassic Fab bed.
-Cheap rocker (orange), battery tray, decent used floor for patches.
-Nice re-done seats.
-New Interior panels and under-seat mats.
-Repro bumpers.
-Wiring harness.
-New shoes, wheel cyls, flex hoses, bearings, tie rods.
-Looks like a full set of seals.
-Boxes of used bits and pieces

Missing engine, gas tank, rear apron. Side gates are probably savable; rear gate beyond help.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got started a few weeks ago. Bought my compressor, had it wired up, got some tools... Man, having air in the shop is very nice! Couldn't break a couple lug studs free... wrenching with a breaker bar made the tire spin on the polished concrete floor. Picked up a decent IR impact wrench and it spun them no problem, then made short work of the front end dissassembly.

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Picked up all the steel for my dolly/half-rotisserie, I'll weld it up when I get the trans and front end out:

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Got the front end out tonight; dinged up the front shift rod a little trying to separate it from the rear, but it should be fine.

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Front end done. I picked up a cheapy air hammer and pickle fork set from the new Princess Auto (closest we get to Harbor Freight in canada), which made separating all the tie rod ends super quick:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trans/axles/rgb's out:

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Ended up selling the trans, drum to drum (minus nosecone) back to Alp for use in one of his projects.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using a chain (extra one from the kids' playground) and jack to get the spring plates off the stopper:

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Dolly frame welded (copied a design from the second page of the biggest rotisserie thread on here):

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Dolly brackets bolted to the frame:

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Lowered onto the dolly frame, where I tacked it. Actually, I was worried about things moving when I welded it up, so I tried to lay as many beads as I could before pulling it out. Things still moved a bit, and I had to ream some holes in the angle iron brackets. I'd use a bigger drill bit if I did it again, more wiggle room.

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Pulled it out and started welding:

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Drilling plates for the casters:

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Welding them on:

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Done:

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Test drive across the garage!

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I'd love to start some sheet metal work, but the used welder I bought didn't come with shielding gas, so before I get a bottle I'll weld up the half-rotisserie with the flux-core wire I've got going.

I'll take some shots of the problem areas and post those next...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice progress!!! keep the pics coming please! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulkhead behind the cab:

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Mild radio hack:

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Passenger front wheel well:

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Passenger floor and dogleg:

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Driver's floor and dogleg:

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Roof creased (from a rotisserie?) over passenger rain gutter:

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Driver's side rocker:

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Battery tray (came with a repair piece):

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Lower nose:

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All in all, pretty minor stuff for a split. I'm debating whether to blast it again and re-do all the bodywork, or just grind all the patches where rust has started again. The whole underside is surface-rusted, and the treasure chest area is spotty.

Side gates are probably savable, rear gate is toast. Doors haven't been touched; they'll need some work. Treasure chest doors are bare metal with pinhole rust, decklid is primered.

Hoping to have it ready for paint when the weather warms up... April? We'll see...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good, I'll be watching!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice project! Looks to be a really solid bus. Nice job on the cart too. Clean and simple.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend using a tie rod end separating tool to remove the drag link and tie rod ends (no damage).
Since the body was taken down to bare metal, take it back down to bare metal, including removing any filler, especially if two coats of epoxy primer were not shot over the body. You don't want your new paint to start getting bubble spots.
I like the photographs: they make me feel like I am there.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice looking project Truck !
I like the no center posts in your garage, wish I had that option when mine was built.
You will love the second treasure chest door when working inside the beast, keep the great picks coming.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That SC is in great shape compared to any I've seen especially from the NC/SC area. Will be watching your progress!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the kind words, everyone!

Campy wrote:
I would recommend using a tie rod end separating tool to remove the drag link and tie rod ends (no damage).
Since the body was taken down to bare metal, take it back down to bare metal, including removing any filler, especially if two coats of epoxy primer were not shot over the body. You don't want your new paint to start getting bubble spots.
I like the photographs: they make me feel like I am there.


New tie rods were among the many parts that came with the project, and the old ones were worn... Whatever primer was used was sprayed over ten years ago with no sign of lifting, but I still think I'd like to start from scratch.

crukab wrote:
Nice looking project Truck !
I like the no center posts in your garage, wish I had that option when mine was built.
You will love the second treasure chest door when working inside the beast, keep the great picks coming.


I have a huge microlam beam that didn't need the post... I have a rental suite up above, occupied by a nurse. I'm going to ask her when her night shifts are, so I can have some late-night sessions banging away in the garage!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good looking project Art. Looking forward to keeping an eye on your progress.
I'm Andrew from Abbotsford, the guy with the fuel tank.
Does the bus tank fit in that location on a single cab?


You've got my number, chat ya later.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Andrew, yeah the tank is the same.

I am missing the sheet metal that hides the tank in the treasure chest... anybody have that?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

south_island_surf wrote:


I am missing the sheet metal that hides the tank in the treasure chest... anybody have that?

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You can have the one in the pic for the cost to ship. Do you have a friend in WA. ?? It would make the shipping cheaper.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crukab wrote:
Do you have a friend in WA. ?? It would make the shipping cheaper.


I wish! I've been hammered on brokerage fees getting stuff across the border... That's a generous offer, thanks! I'll look for awhile in Canada, then maybe hit you up closer to paint time if I haven't found one.

Got started on the rotisserie part of the dolly today:

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Good penetration:

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Here's all that's left of the original colour, I'm guessing it's Ivory, seems closer than Pearl White:

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Paint choices are down to Pearl White, Anthracite, or of course good ol' Dove Blue. BRM's for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got more done on the rotisserie.

Second upright and crossbrace:

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Adjustable piece to brace the cab:

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Placed this tube against the cab, tucked up under the rain gutter, then traced how it sat against the brace so I can cut it and weld them at that angle:

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Only had a couple hours in the garage today, hopefully I can finish it off tomorrow and flip this sucker on its side!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't NEED the additional support at the cab. The frame is plenty strong to support the weight of the shell.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you're right, and I've read the debate on the rotisserie threads...

Just peace of mind, especially since this is my first fabricating project beyond skateboard grind rails! I'm pretty sure all the welds are good, but a little insurance never hurt.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking at that singlecab back in 2009 already, but when I sold my other bus in 2010, I needed a driver, the withdrawal was so bad. Bought a 65 singlecab, but always wondered about the colour of yours. It does really look closer to ivory. Have you got an Mcode plate with it? That should tell all. It's behind the passenger seat, down low.

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