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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: New Member - 30 Years Coming - Full Circle - Great Story! Reply with quote

Hi all Smile

First, just wanted to say this is an amazing site!

I've been a car guy for 30 years as a professional and enthusiast. Even though I like all old cars, my specialty cars over the last 3 decades were mostly domestic classic cars. I always wanted a Type3 Fastback because that was the car that ignited the automobile passion for me.

My father worked at a VW dealership in the late 60s and early 70s and bought a Type3 Fastback brand new. That was the only car I loved from diapers until I was 15 years old. I wanted that car so bad when I turned 16, but unfortunately it was sent to the junk yard when I was 15. There have been a few times over the last 30 years I've come close to buying one, but never happened for one reason or another.

So here I am joining Samba at 43 years old, still trying to live that dream, that passion I felt 30 years ago when I was 13 years old riding is that car. I placed a Wanted Ad in the Classifieds, so maybe the stars will align this year.

I will leave you with an amazing story about that car and the unforgettable afternoon I had with it before it went to the junk yard. Enjoy!

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The 1971 VW Type III Fastback was parked in our garage and not being used because it was at the end of it's useful life and my father was contemplating on what to do with it. I was 15 years old, loved the car, and dreamed about driving it when I got my drivers license at 16.

One day after school while nobody was home, I decided it was time to test my driving ability around the neighborhood. I never drove a stick shift before but my dirt-bike clutch works the same, so it should be no big deal. With much excitement I grabbed the keys and headed toward the garage. This was no ordinary garage, it was a very old outdoor garage that looked more like a chicken coupe with a cracked & crooked cement floor.

Starting it up, vw engine was music to my ears, pulling out of the garage slowly, all went smoothly. I drove it around the local streets for about 15 minutes with no problems. Never stalled it even once! Upon returning to the garage I had to reverse it into position, the way it was originally. This is a very tight alley way, narrow garage, stick shift, with manual steering... so it was very difficult for a seasoned driver, let alone an under-aged rookie.

After several attempts I hit the drivers door on the garage and put a hand sized dent into it. After a few more attempts I finally got it in but it was parked crooked. I decided to jack up the rear wheels and slide the car into position like they do in the service shops. When I got the rear of the car where I wanted it and started to lower the car, the old leaky hydraulic jack was tricky to operate and the car came down too fast. The right rear wheel went right through the garage floor!

I could believe my eyes. The car is stuck in the garage floor with a huge hole about 3ft in diameter and 1ft deep. My parents will be home in a few hours. I decide to call in the Cavalry for help. I call my three friends on the phone to tell them what happened. My friends arrive shortly after.

First we need to get the car out. They start rocking and pushing from behind while I'm inside working the clutch. With the smell of burning clutch filling the garage, we finally get the car out of the hole. One friend starts taking the drivers door panel off to pop the dent out. My other friend's dad is in the construction business and he remembers a bag of cement and sand in his basement. So he runs home to grab it.

In the mean time, my other buddy and I start filling the hole with anything we can find... paper, rocks, you name it. About 15 minutes later my friend arrives with a half bag of cement, bag of sand and a black plastic mixing tub! We break out the garden hose and mix up some cement. We never made cement before, so we just keep adding ingredients until it looked good. Filled up the hole and smoothed it out with a block of wood.

I now switch tasks to assist putting the door panel back on after successfully popping the dent out. Now we need to get the car back in the garage OVER the wet cement hole. The right rear tire should be located just behind the wet cement hole, We decided to use a long 2x4 and drive the right rear wheel over the patch in the floor. I slowly back the car over the board while my friends guide me. Success!

As I get out of the car I hear a sound coming from the rear of the car. It sounds like leaking air. Turns out the board we drove the car over had a nail in it. How all three of those guys missed it I'll never know. One of the guys jumps on his bicycle and races down to the local mini-mart to grab a can of fix-a-flat. In the meantime we clean up and throw some final touches on the repaired floor like dry leaves and dirt to blend it in.

My friend returns with the fix-a-flat and we fill the tire up with gunk and pump it up the rest of the way with a bicycle foot pump. We closed the garage doors and locked everything up. We all gave high-fives and everyone went home. My parents never knew or they never said anything. I'll never know. Six months later the car went to the junk yard.

I told them the story 20 years later and we all laughed about it. Looking back, what amazes me the most about the whole thing, is the unbelievable ability and resourcefulness of four 15-year-olds.

After all those years and all those classic cars, I have come full circle, I still dream about driving that TypeIII 30 years later, which is why I joined Samba!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent story. Fastbacks suddenly seem to be the new Notchbacks. In fact, DasBlackSamba has a car for sale that's almost identical to the one you're standing next to- or it could be put back to that, at least.

Just do me a favor. Get a late Fasty, and restore it right. No mods, no hack jobs, no bullshit. Dont fock it up. Very Happy Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great story!

...except for the part where you say, "...it was at the end of it's useful life."

No such thing!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, saw your ad- a little advice- Yes, the 4 speed is nice, but do not shy away from a good Automatic! You'd be surprised at how zippy an AT can be in these cars. In fact, the AT models were rated at a slightly higher top speed than a manual.

Just an FYI.

There looks to be a decent builder over in Chardon Ohio listed in the classys unless it's completely gone underneath.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
OP, saw your ad- a little advice- Yes, the 4 speed is nice, but do not shy away from a good Automatic! You'd be surprised at how zippy an AT can be in these cars. In fact, the AT models were rated at a slightly higher top speed than a manual.

Just an FYI.

There looks to be a decent builder over in Chardon Ohio listed in the classys unless it's completely gone underneath.


Autos are sweet. And auto/efi fasty, that would really kick ass.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SamSmith wrote:
Tram wrote:
OP, saw your ad- a little advice- Yes, the 4 speed is nice, but do not shy away from a good Automatic! You'd be surprised at how zippy an AT can be in these cars. In fact, the AT models were rated at a slightly higher top speed than a manual.

Just an FYI.

There looks to be a decent builder over in Chardon Ohio listed in the classys unless it's completely gone underneath.


Autos are sweet. And auto/efi fasty, that would really kick ass.


My wife's 70 Fastback is quite "zippy", with AT and FI. I occasionally get to drive it, and it reminds me of an oversize go kart. Wink It's fun as hell to drive though. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
Excellent story. Fastbacks suddenly seem to be the new Notchbacks. Just do me a favor. Get a late Fasty, and restore it right. No mods, no hack jobs, no bullshit. Dont fock it up. Very Happy Laughing



Woah Shocked Easy there Tiger. I dont see any fastbacks selling over 10k anythime soon Wink You buy a fastback and restore it, consider it a labor of love Laughing Because you will be lucky if anyone else will love it for the amount you want. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
Tram wrote:
Excellent story. Fastbacks suddenly seem to be the new Notchbacks. Just do me a favor. Get a late Fasty, and restore it right. No mods, no hack jobs, no bullshit. Dont fock it up. Very Happy Laughing



Woah Shocked Easy there Tiger. I dont see any fastbacks selling over 10k anythime soon Wink You buy a fastback and restore it, consider it a labor of love Laughing Because you will be lucky if anyone else will love it for the amount you want. Cool


Yeah, well, they really seem to be in demand right now, Eisenbart.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
notchboy wrote:
Tram wrote:
Excellent story. Fastbacks suddenly seem to be the new Notchbacks. Just do me a favor. Get a late Fasty, and restore it right. No mods, no hack jobs, no bullshit. Dont fock it up. Very Happy Laughing



Woah Shocked Easy there Tiger. I dont see any fastbacks selling over 10k anythime soon Wink You buy a fastback and restore it, consider it a labor of love Laughing Because you will be lucky if anyone else will love it for the amount you want. Cool


Yeah, well, they really seem to be in demand right now, Eisenbart.


I couldn't be happier about that!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
notchboy wrote:
Tram wrote:
Excellent story. Fastbacks suddenly seem to be the new Notchbacks. Just do me a favor. Get a late Fasty, and restore it right. No mods, no hack jobs, no bullshit. Dont fock it up. Very Happy Laughing



Woah Shocked Easy there Tiger. I dont see any fastbacks selling over 10k anythime soon Wink You buy a fastback and restore it, consider it a labor of love Laughing Because you will be lucky if anyone else will love it for the amount you want. Cool


Yeah, well, they really seem to be in demand right now, Eisenbart.


Where are you seeing this demand for fastbacks?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krusher wrote:
Tram wrote:
notchboy wrote:
Tram wrote:
Excellent story. Fastbacks suddenly seem to be the new Notchbacks. Just do me a favor. Get a late Fasty, and restore it right. No mods, no hack jobs, no bullshit. Dont fock it up. Very Happy Laughing



Woah Shocked Easy there Tiger. I dont see any fastbacks selling over 10k anythime soon Wink You buy a fastback and restore it, consider it a labor of love Laughing Because you will be lucky if anyone else will love it for the amount you want. Cool


Yeah, well, they really seem to be in demand right now, Eisenbart.


Where are you seeing this demand for fastbacks?


Look around the forum at how many are suddenly being restored. I'm not saying I agree with it, but it is what it is.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
Just do me a favor. Get a late Fasty, and restore it right. No mods, no hack jobs, no bullshit. Dont fock it up. Very Happy Laughing


V8W... awesome story mate... do you have a name Rolling Eyes

if you like them Fat then go ahead Confused prefer early... way cooler Cool

it may be the Year of The Type 3... but never rule out the others... like this Laughing

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1288995

V8W... you WONT find much better. this will sell ASAP. if i lived in the US... for that price it would already be in my shed Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
BUY IT great car IMHO.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone.

Also, thank you for the suggestions. Because of my childhood with this car and so many decades gone past, unfortunately no substitute will do. The only Type3 I will buy is a fastback with a manual trans in very good to excellent condition. Here are a few I almost bought recently for example...

- Couple years ago there was a nice dark green one with white interior at the PVGP (I go every year, I am a sponsor this year, awesome event) but the owner wasn't around. When I went back to talk to him later, the car was gone.

- Last year in April 2011, there was a 66-69 being sold by a fellow named Marvin in TN I believe. It was cream colored, fully restored, stock, beautiful car. He was asking $8k, selling price was $7k, but he needed to unload it quick and offered it to me for $6k. That was a great deal, but I only had $4 to spend at the time. This year I have more to spend, I contacted him, but the car is gone.

- Another example would be recently, the yellow one for sale in NC for $5k. It's a very nice fasty, but it's not at the condition level I would be immediately happy with.

Here is an example of what I'm looking for, only in a fastback...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1288822

Here is another example, this car is 5 miles from me, but not a fastback...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-VW-Squareback-/260995612157

I just have to be patient and the right car for me will come along. I been waiting 30 years, a few more weeks or months is no big deal. I'm looking forward to hanging out here!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name is Brian!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Brian,
just a helping hand mate Wink

Mmmmmm Rag Top
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=807858

Matty car is MINT - Very Nice
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1206361

Ken's 68 is stock & clean
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1206361

a thought... but its fat Laughing
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1250317

John's 66... $2800ono - dont rule this out you can make it your own. great base to add you $5k to
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1246043

out of all the Fasties listed... these are all nice IMHO.
cheers matty
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I regularly check TheSamba Classifieds, thanks.
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V8W wrote:
I regularly check TheSamba Classifieds, thanks.


ohhhh ok... thought you only joined yesterday... my mistake Confused just trying to help out Idea
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I joined the forum yesterday, but have been reading the classifieds much longer, thanks.
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ohhhh ok... thought you only joined yesterday... my mistake Confused just trying to help out Idea


a little help is always nice hey matty

welcome aboard Brian, great story and dont worry there are fatty fans i for one are a fatty fan
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