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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:14 pm    Post subject: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

Is it possible to rebuild a burnt out rear wiper motor?

More importantly would it be worth trying to do so??
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

Short answer is YES!!!

Long answer is...... Probably not worth the cost of getting the motor rewound. Just source a used one.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

Awesome - I know nothing about motors - so I was just curious. The unit otherwise seems mechanically ok.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

I am now the proud owner of two burnt out rear wiper motors... my original and the supposedly good second-hand replacement. The electric motor shop where I have had excellent service in the past with starter and alternator rebuilds cannot help me.

I would like to get these both rewound, so if anyone has a reputable shop they can recommend, I would like to hear from you.

I would rather not deal with another second-hand motor.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

Those rear wipers are generally used sparingly and only intermittently when turned on, so it's hard to imagine them "burning out". I suspect that it's more likely that the bushings are dried up and/or there's rust inside the case. Try dismantling, cleaning and lubing before taking more dra$tic measures.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

They are both burned. Blueing and scorching on the armatures where brushes contact. One motor had windings failed ohms test at shop. I disassembled both on my bench prior to the shop visit.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

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They are both burned. Blueing and scorching on the armatures where brushes contact. One motor had windings failed ohms test at shop. I disassembled both on my bench prior to the shop visit.


I lost only one and that's because the wiper got caught up in a bike pedal of a bike being carried on the rear hatch. I've kept that burned out one around thinking some day I'd get around to seeing if I could get it 'fixed'.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

I'm a little pissed at my shop. They do exceptional work, and are used to dealing with antiquated farm equipment and the unusual. But they just don't want to mess with these for some reason.

I'm starting to take better care of my Westy than my own house, and would like to get the rear wiper back in play. Just did an 1,100 mile trip to McCloud River and returned through Calistoga... it was a flawless trip, right up to when I did a hard three point turn backing into my garage driveway and spun the power steering belt off. Must have been loose.

If I do find a good shop that can rewind these, I will post it here.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

I too have a burned out rear wiper motor. It happened years ago on a trip up the Going to the Sun Road in Glacier Park. We had bikes on a rack that hung against the back window and the rear wiper got accidentally turned on. I was afraid the engine was the source of the smoke so twice I stopped and pulled the bikes off and raised the rear deck lid, pulled everything out and looked into the engine bay to find nothing wrong. Little did I suspect that the source of the smoke was above me in the deck lid. I didn't discover the burned motor until years later since I rarely use the rear wiper.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

A jammed wiper arm makes the most sense to explain these burned out motors. Here in the land of infinite rain, I can't recall the last time I had to replace a front wiper motor, which is often required to run constantly for hours.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

I remember vividly the last 2 or three rear wiper motors that burnt out on me , while navigating Donner Pass during the blizzard of 02.

The weight of the snow blew them both up.

I have a guy here that rewinds small electric motors.
$175.00 .

Take a good look at the armature.
Look at all that small wire in the windings.
There is very far and few machines left to rewind any armature, and it's all hand wound today.
Bet you thought this was going to be cheap.

Nope.

Another lost art.

Buy a new motor or re-wind it yourself.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

No, I did not think it was going to be cheap. Not at all.

I did not find a source for new motors, hence the rewind path.

Question Who's got a source for new?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

...bump.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

http://www.bus-boys.com/wipers.html
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

<<...bump.>>

Bump, bump, bump.

Instead of bumping your buttox around, did you happen to think you would have had an answer 2 days ago if you searched the motor on Google?

Bus Boys is one outlet available.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

Wellington wrote:
http://www.bus-boys.com/wipers.html


Thanks for the link. I will call them early this week. Hopefully, these will be new or good rebuilt units. My usual vendors (Bus Depot, Van café and GoWesty) do not carry these. As I mentioned, I am not interested in buying a used unit. Rebuilt by a reputable shop is fine. Otherwise, I will forego this for the interim. It seems unlikely to me that Bus Boys would be the only source for new or rebuilt units, but I will find out.

It seems like these are NLA new. Hopefully, I am wrong. Anyway, I added to this thread under the theme of rebuilding the unit, not buying a used one. But new is fine, of course.

Terry Kay wrote:
<<...bump.>>

Bump, bump, bump.

Instead of bumping your buttox around, did you happen to think you would have had an answer 2 days ago if you searched the motor on Google?

Bus Boys is one outlet available.


Question Have you been drinking again? How is it you post support for Bus Boys after it was suggested by someone else while simultaneously chastising me for supposedly not searching the internet? Your common theme seems to be a condescending ass. Your alleged knowledge and experience is not carte blanche to stink up the place. If you're going to be a turd, go lay in the yard.

But, what the hell... here is your Google suggestion, TK. Let me know if you see any new or rebuilt Vanagon rear wiper motors in your suggested Goggle search action:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=new+rear+wipe...mp;start=0
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

Bus Boys has been out of business -- dead, gone, kaput -- for at least a year. Phone rings endlessly, no response to emails, nobody at the shop.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

Is it at all possible that while one post was being published, I was taking care of my personal stuff, or taking a look over at google?

I am not your indentured servent, never will be, and while you may think I am whatever portion of a waste product, I would much rather be called that than being the entire outhouse which you seem to fit right into being a portion of your announced published waste product as your handle states.

You don't have enough currency available for me to do your Sherlock Holmes parts searching work.

I would suggest you use the tools available on the internet, or pick up & dial that antique communication apparatus to locate whatever it is that you are looking for.

Don't forget the corn cob, or your Sears catalog when you enter your office.

Bump, Bump, Bump, right back attya.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

What is the difference between the front and rear wiper motors? In the Bentley they look the same. What are the part numbers for each?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Can an old rear wiper motor be rebuilt? Reply with quote

Two different part numbers.
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