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laker
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 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject: Empi 38/38 EGAS carb. |
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Hi, is anybody have any experience with this carb on a 1600 D/P?
Besides the location of the chocke, is 38/38 better carb all the way around then a 32/36 progressive? |
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modok
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both carbs are actually too big for a 50HP 1600
The 32/36 is 50% too big
the 38 is 100% too big
The only way a synchronous 38 would make sense is on a divided manifold, like those intended for a bugspray or DCNF, but it would probably not clear the shroud, is it a type-3? |
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laker
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| modok wrote: |
both carbs are actually too big for a 50HP 1600
The 32/36 is 50% too big
the 38 is 100% too big
The only way a synchronous 38 would make sense is on a divided manifold, like those intended for a bugspray or DCNF, but it would probably not clear the shroud, is it a type-3? |
Empi claims that is jetted for a 1600 D/P...i question that....i was hopping somebody has tried one. |
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T2
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone out there try one of these yet? |
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modok
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Is the manifold isolated side to side? |
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spencerfvee
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Empi 38/38 EGAS carb. |
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hi there is a other forum on the 38 egas carb with pictures under.... new vw carb empi 38 egas. ...the 38 egas works great . i have one thats going on my 1600 spencerfvee.......
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Hi, is anybody have any experience with this carb on a 1600 D/P?
Besides the location of the chocke, is 38/38 better carb all the way around then a 32/36 progressive? |
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david greiner
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noneed
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| modok wrote: |
| Is the manifold isolated side to side? |
I was under the impression it's the same manifold design as a progressive....
A waste of time IMO, but to be fair I have not tried one of these on anything.
If you really are into using a center mount set up go for a real weber, like an IDF.
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laker
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| modok wrote: |
| Is the manifold isolated side to side? |
I was under the impression it's the same manifold design as a progressive....
A waste of time IMO, but to be fair I have not tried one of these on anything.
If you really are into using a center mount set up go for a real weber, like an IDF. |
No electric Choke....I went to the snow at Big Bear mountain last year with my sons VW club, it was 8%, i saw a couple of bugs with single idf's having a hell of a time trying to keep the car idle or even starting but one of then with a 32/36 progressive carb had no issues what so ever...I had no problems with the 34 pic3 in our Ghia starting.
Thats why i find the 38/38 has its potential....not enough out there yet to get a real good feedback.....Also it maybe a type of carb that will work well with a 1776,1835 or 1914 (larger engines) but may not be a good choice for the stock 1600... I hope they become more popular and we get more feedback on it. |
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bugaddiction71
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: egas 38 |
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| ok i have a 1600dp stock rods and piston 85.5mm , cw crank 69mm , 110 cam, steel push rods,solid rocker shafts 1.1 stock rockers with swival ball ajt., stock heads with mild port and light flywheel. just ordered the egas 38 kit. ill let you know how it goes. everybody cool |
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laker
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: egas 38 |
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| bugaddiction71 wrote: |
| ok i have a 1600dp stock rods and piston 85.5mm , cw crank 69mm , 110 cam, steel push rods,solid rocker shafts 1.1 stock rockers with swival ball ajt., stock heads with mild port and light flywheel. just ordered the egas 38 kit. ill let you know how it goes. everybody cool |
Sounds good, looking forward to your input |
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bugaddiction71
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:03 pm Post subject: egas 38 |
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| ill get it monday or tuesday ill have it on by sat. monday il post some good news |
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jvulich
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| I just installed one on a friends 1600 dual port, all stock except a 009 distributor, mild cb performance cam and straight cut gears. I'm still tuning it... Trying to find the happy medium between performance and mileage. When I hit the throttle hard it goes like hell but the speedo and the fuel gauge go in opposite directions. For the novice installer like myself there is a bit of fitting/cutting as per the instructions which I did with a pipe cutter, not a hack saw, then theres other little things Hot VW's didn't do that that I did to make it a little cleaner install. On this particular car I shortened the throttle cable with a custom made 5/32 press on fitting(not with the funky screw on fitting that will hit the shroud with this kit), made an adapter from 5mm fuel hose to the 1/4 fuel hose that the egas carb uses( clamping 1/4 inch fuel hose on a stock fuel pump is asking for trouble in my opinion) and then I put a 90 degree fitting on the vent hose at the air filter so it wouldn't kink. |
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jvulich
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| modok wrote: |
| Is the manifold isolated side to side? |
No, it dumps into a single tube at the bottom of the intake. |
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sactojesse
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| jvulich wrote: |
| modok wrote: |
| Is the manifold isolated side to side? |
No, it dumps into a single tube at the bottom of the intake. |
Commonly known as a "plenum" manifold, as opposed to an isolated runner manifold.
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| Hmmm, blowing a lot of smoke and no dyno figures - no good, huh? |
White Smoke!!! The pope is dead 
No good sign for me too...
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You guys are gonna find out real quick thoe junky carbs will get horrable gas milage.
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| I found out real quick that my perfectly tuned/wideband tuned & jetted 44idf's on a 2110 motor gets horrible mileage as well!! lol |
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jvulich
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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modok
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| You can only tune the carb to do what it is capable of doing. |
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