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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Antenna placement on a '57 Oval? Reply with quote

I scored an OG antenna for my '57 USspec Oval from a '57 Euro parts car. It was placed on the drivers side, pointed straight up. On my oval, I can't find any evidence where holes have been filled, smoothed over, etc... in that spot or on the other side. I just wanted to make sure when I put the antenna on, it's in the right place...

Looking at other beetles, I've seen the antenna placed on both driver's and passenger's side, sometimes straight up, sometimes at an angle...?

What would the proper 'spot' and angle be for my US spec '57???
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no "proper" spot.

Bentley covers antenna installation but they give no exact dimensions.

They say you can put it on the left or on the right. They also cover a telescoping one that goes into the body.

I could scan the pages and email them if you want but they won't tell you where to put it.

The factory never installed a radio or an antenna, that was all dealer installed and each mechanic did as they saw fit.

I'm sure some will chime in with exact dimensions on their car and there may be service bulletins issued for this at some point, I'm sure others will chime in

My 57 is on the right in front of the passenger door.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radios were quite often dealer installed. I would suggest since you're not use to one on your car you make a fake antenna an attach ( maybe use a magnet) it to both sides of your car to see which side and where you want it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked the right front quarter panel. My reasoning was that the panel was previously damaged, so further mutilation seemed less of an impact. I don't think I could have done it otherwise. At the time, I also bought a setup for windshield squirter, but could never bring myself to drill the hole in the cowling. I still have the one year only NOS mechanical switch/pump unit for it in a proverbial box somewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think left panel is the best, because mine is there ( of course).
And it should be placed so you dont see it so much when you drive. If it was placed on the right side, it will be in sight all the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the antenna placement on my oct 54. It originally used a 2 point antenna, second hole can be seen underneath / at an angle similar to the window a post)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everybody for the replies, so I guess my '57 never had an antenna installed so I can actually choose the spot for it... Bittersweet as knowing it never had the holes drilled for the last 53 years is it wrong to drill them now... Rolling Eyes The car is far from OG so I guess it won't be that big of a butchery..... Question
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KaraAnn wrote:
Thanks everybody for the replies, so I guess my '57 never had an antenna installed so I can actually choose the spot for it... Bittersweet as knowing it never had the holes drilled for the last 53 years is it wrong to drill them now... Rolling Eyes The car is far from OG so I guess it won't be that big of a butchery..... Question


There is nothing wrong with putting one on. Do you actually use the radio while you drive?
I know that many, myself included, often use an iPod which is wired into my radio with only rare occasional use of off the air programing.
Maybe just hooking up an iPod based sound system would work for you?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my car the first thing to go on was the extended length antenna long before there was a radio installed or bodywork done..., you gotta have some serious custom features... Laughing ...as a matter of fact the antenna still isn't wired up... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I decided to go with the passenger side, straight up no angle..... No reason other than my radio is mounted in my glove box so no having to run the antenna wire across the trunk.

Thanks again for your guys help...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am more of a minimalist than not, but for some reason the double mount antennas make the early Bugs look a lot better IMHO. Nice addition!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As placed on my restored 56.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the location of my antenna with the Motorola Big M radio.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see alot of different antennas

I see the "two post antenna"
listed as a us style antenna at the shops here in europe.

And single post antenna is discussed as later here on thesamba,
but listed as a european model here in europe.

What antenna's would be period correct for 1957 swedish beetles?

And are there any rare two post antenna's?


experiences for old fm radio with hidden antenna under the front bonnet?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snap wrote:

What antenna's would be period correct for 1957 swedish beetles?


My '56 Kabriolett is a Swedish import. It has a Bosch Red tip antennae on it, much like the Green one

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the drivers side because you can reach out the window and adjust the height while driving if needed.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3foldfolly wrote:
I like the drivers side because you can reach out the window and adjust the height while driving if needed.


You must have extremely looong arms
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think where ever they are from the 'oval' era... it was dealer supplied & the buyer's decision for placement...

Mine is passenger side and the original mast, 2 post, slanted to the drip line. And an almost at the point of re-installing it. will put up a pic once she's back on.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RareAir wrote:
3foldfolly wrote:
I like the drivers side because you can reach out the window and adjust the height while driving if needed.


You must have extremely looong arms
Nope, only 5 ft 7.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Below are Blaupunkt antenna installation location(s) instructions for 1958 and later - these instructions are dated May 1959. Maybe the oval window instructions were similar.
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