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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3725 Location: Az
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:05 pm Post subject: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Just thought I post a few photos of what I did today. I finally installed this used 2.2 wxb I bought from Surfy Murfy about a year ago (who is a very cool dude). I used a cherry picker I got from AZ a coupe of years ago. One 4x8 sheet of plywood under the engine/trans, & two 2x4 sheets under the AZ ramps. I also had a couple of 2by2's that I used to set the engine on the legs of the crane. I rolled it under & re-grabbed the chain. A little wiggling & I got it in. The 2x2's also come in handy to leverage the engine in when mating it to the trans.
My biggest problem was the heat. In the 90's & the humidity around 80%
I'm done with bolting it up. Tomorrow I'll hook it all up & hopefully off to cape cod for a week tomorrow night.
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10495 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Thanks for the reminder in one of your pics.
I need to buy or make wheel ramps.
I just moved to a place with gravel/dirt floor.
Nice work. Hope it runs great!
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15ยบ ABA
(VW Gas I4)
1988 Westy DIY 50ยบ ABA
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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3725 Location: Az
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Thanks. Regarding those ramps, they will fail on a gravel driveway (crack & break). You must put some wood under them. HF sells the metal ones, but they were all out, so I settled for the AZ plastic ones. |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10495 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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^^
thanks. Yes for sure. I see what you mean. I likely would've put them on
plywood as you did. They might also shift once loaded up.
I have some spare lumber so will likely make wood ramps. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15ยบ ABA
(VW Gas I4)
1988 Westy DIY 50ยบ ABA
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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3725 Location: Az
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Here's the video. I also bought the Rhino Max version.
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12167 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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I just made this little gantry stanchion today, from an old DVD rack I got for free from the local Habitat for Humanity store. I'm getting ready to install my ALH in the driveway (sloped concrete).
_________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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hans j Samba Member

Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 2741 Location: Salt Lake City UT
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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I took out my T181 Thing engine in my parents gravel driveway almost twenty years ago. It sucked and I promised myself to never do it again! Then I got a job as a mechanic and now I have a hoist in my office!  _________________ 1986 Canadian Syncro Westy TDI - 1989 Syncro Single Cab - 2001 Audi S4 - 1981 VW Caddy ABA - 1980 VW Caddy EV - 1973 VW T-181 |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10355 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Congrats! You got yours in before I did. Mine is ready to install sitting on the floor and I'm headed to Michigan for two weeks. Wah.
So what's the vacuum thing between the dizzy and the crankcase breather tower? _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1993 Toyota LandCruiser, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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djkeev Samba Moderator

Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32988 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Abscate  Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:34 am Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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tjet wrote: |
Here's the video. I also bought the Rhino Max version.
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Am I getting crusTKy in my old age - but if you need a video to figure out why a plastic ramp doesn't work on stone, should you be working on cars? _________________ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ |
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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3725 Location: Az
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
I just made this little gantry stanchion today, from an old DVD rack I got for free from the local Habitat for Humanity store. I'm getting ready to install my ALH in the driveway (sloped concrete).
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That's what I originally wanted to build, but went with an engine crane instead as I'm pressed for time right now. My DW is also slopped too. Enough that a pair of jackstands will tilt over.
^^^^^^^
Doug/Dave, good catch. It was a dual carb engine. Here's a photo of the actual engine when it had a pair of Weber's on the aircooled.net site. I can't find the build thread though from Surfy.
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Waterboxer-Dual-40-IDF-Carburetor-Kit-p/waterboxer-dual-idf.htm
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Am I getting crusTKy in my old age - but if you need a video to figure out why a plastic ramp doesn't work on stone, should you be working on cars? |
I just wanted to warn some folks out there. I should also mention that the plywood I got for my ramps is too thin. They are conforming to the ground & not flat on the top. Because of this, one of my ramps is swelling on the side. Not bad, but enough for me to notice it.
If you need to do this, get 3/4" plywood min.
Time to finish my coffee & get this project done...
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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I pulled my WBX with a shop crane, but need the gantry in order to be able to crawl around under the engine while mocking up/welding the crossbar _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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Bman Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2005 Posts: 895 Location: South Coast, Oregon
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Jeffrey Lee Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Abscate wrote: |
... if you need a video to figure out why a plastic ramp doesn't work on stone, should you be working on cars? |
No.
Put the wrench down and step away before someone hurts himself ... _________________ Camp Westfalia
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KristianS Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Wow that video was recorded with a potato.
OP, looks great! |
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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3725 Location: Az
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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djkeev wrote: |
Looks like a mechanical fuel pump! (We all have the cover plate there)
Interesting........ It's clearly fuel injected.
Dave |
Can I leave the fuel pump block (pushrod guide) in place & just put the wbx cover on it? It's sealed on pretty good |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10495 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
I pulled my WBX with a shop crane, but need the gantry in order to be able to crawl around under the engine while mocking up/welding the crossbar |
don't know what happened to my post last night ( I was kidding by referring to
Caseys gantry as "fancy". Its obviously quite nice),
but some lengths of wood and a hand winch works well too.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15ยบ ABA
(VW Gas I4)
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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Fancy...ha ha! Actually, those 2x4 engine lift examples are what got me to thinking I could use this thing in a similar manner, with some minor mods. All I did was cut out about 2' of the uprights and then weld the top back to the tube base. I'm thinking about using the part of the rolling base with casters that I cut off the tube structure as a cradle to roll the engine up under the van. Re-purposing is fun for the whole family _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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tjet Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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I didn't get it done last night. I lost that little barrel nut that secures the throttle cable in the TB . Thank god I had an extra TB with that special cable nut & the pinch bolt still on it. I should be on the road in a few hrs for Cape Cod if all goes well. My wife & kid got there a few days ago - we rented a beach cottage.
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One more thing, I noticed this new engine has the high oil pressure switch port capped off. Can I just hook up the low press switch & ground out the wire that goes to the high switch? |
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Sodo Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Gravel driveway engine install |
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I'm working on plywood too. Level ramp for the van slightly raised has been a big help. A pair of 4x10 - 10ft would do well. Cost ~ $40 each new (?) possibly can be scrounged by some folks. Or 2X10s doubled.
This has been a great addition to my work area and was pretty easy. My boards are 2.25" x 10" doug fir (11 ft long). I've since added stops at the rears so it can't roll off the board. Someone might conclude that I'me geared up for spending too much time under the van....
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