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bajafreaks
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 Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:44 pm Post subject: early 2.0 rebuilt engine value ? |
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I recently bought a 74 Porsche 914 that has a rebuilt 2.0 engine in it.
Case #CV044076 which states its from a 80-83 vanagon. Per the guy I bought the car from he says it was freshly rebuilt, but has a rear seal leak and the project was then put on hold so there are zero mile on the rebuild.
I want to sell the engine and get the proper one for my 914 restoration, any ideas on what this engine would be worth ? any one want to buy it ?
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Jeff's Old Volks Home
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$12-1500? I sold a couple very low mileage 2.0's for $1500 complete with exhaust and FI.
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hdenter
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I would not pay that kind of money for an engine that I haven't heard running. The parts for those engines are not any less expensive than the water cooled engines. Replace the seal and fire it up. Do a you tube video and show the compression. Then, get you $1200+ price. Otherwise it is just an unproven $500 core. At least in my book. Do you have documentation for the rebuild?
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hdenter
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I would not pay that kind of money for an engine that I haven't heard running. The parts for those engines are not any less expensive than the water cooled engines. Replace the seal and fire it up. Do a you tube video and show the compression. Then, get you $1200+ price. Otherwise it is just an unproven $500 core. At least in my book. Do you have documentation for the rebuild?
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the joker
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| Better hope it didn't come from waterboxer inc., then it worth maybe a core exchange at best. |
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bajafreaks
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| hdenter wrote: |
I would not pay that kind of money for an engine that I haven't heard running. The parts for those engines are not any less expensive than the water cooled engines. Replace the seal and fire it up. Do a you tube video and show the compression. Then, get you $1200+ price. Otherwise it is just an unproven $500 core. At least in my book. Do you have documentation for the rebuild?
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I don't have any build history just a mans word.
I fired it up briefly before it was pulled from the car. I did a compression check on it and all cylinders were 150. The case has been split with new sealant showing. I'm going to pull one of the heads to get pictures of the pistons and back side of the heads. I know its a gamble for a buyer but I wont be asking full price for it either although its worth more than a core fee. |
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MarkWard
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A 2.0 engine from a 914 from memory does not interchange with a vanagon 2.0 directly. The exhaust ports are the wrong shape and I am pretty sure the sparkplug location in the head is slightly different on the 914 as well.
I would add that even between the 2.0 bay and the 914 they are not completely interchangeable. I could be wrong on both counts too. |
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bajafreaks
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A 2.0 engine from a 914 from memory does not interchange with a vanagon 2.0 directly. The exhaust ports are the wrong shape and I am pretty sure the sparkplug location in the head is slightly different on the 914 as well.
I would add that even between the 2.0 bay and the 914 they are not completely interchangeable. I could be wrong on both counts too. |
I have the square ports on these heads and yes the plug locations are different from 2.0 Porsche heads to 2.0 bus heads. |
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If memory serves me correct a 2.0 914 head will have 3 studs on the intake manifold.
Those are desirable heads.
If it doesn't have those heads it's not a 914 2.0.
If the heads have 2 studs it could have any combo of bore and stroke.
You don't want to run a type 4 with big bore thin wall cylinders in a bus.
It's ikely a 1.7, 1.8 or maybe a 2.0 type 4 VW engine.
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bajafreaks
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If memory serves me correct a 2.0 914 head will have 3 studs on the intake manifold.
Those are desirable heads.
If it doesn't have those heads it's not a 914 2.0.
If the heads have 2 studs it could have any combo of bore and stroke.
You don't want to run a type 4 with big bore thin wall cylinders in a bus.
It's ikely a 1.7, 1.8 or maybe a 2.0 type 4 VW engine.
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As I mentioned the engine case # is from a 80-83 vanagon so its definitely a vw case, it doesn't have Porsche heads on it. I'm planning to pull one of the heads to measure the cylinder diameter |
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i wonder how many times they tried to fix that oil leak?
i once had an engine where i changed the seals a coupla times for no cure and then discovered it was actually a hairline crack in the case...............  |
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bajafreaks
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i wonder how many times they tried to fix that oil leak?
i once had an engine where i changed the seals a coupla times for no cure and then discovered it was actually a hairline crack in the case............... |
Its my understanding that the guy installed the rebuilt engine and once he got it running discovered the leak. The sad part of the whole story is he discovered he had cancer right around this time and gave up on the project because of his health and passed away a short time later. |
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MarkWard
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I totally misread your thread.
You now own a 914 that is powered with a Vanagon engine and you want to repower it with the original 914 2.0. And sell on the vanagon engine to recoup some money.
If you can't run the engine, upload a video to you tube, do a cylinder leak down and compression test, it is only worth core value if that. |
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