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brettsvw
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 Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:48 am Post subject: 2/59 speedometer restoration |
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Replaced my 59 kombi's complete dash so decided to tear into the
speedo and clean it up.
Needle did not make it.
Disassembled
The white rubber surround for the turn indicator bulb needs replacing.
Removed the melted part and found a rubber vacuum boot in my bay
parts box.
I used the center cover plate as a template to mark the cut. The boot
needs to be cut at an angle to sit flush with face plate.
The first cut extra material was left for a clean final cut. I also
made it big enough to allow compression to keep indicator light sealed.
I flipped the rubber boot over to make use of the existing lip for a
better seal.
I bought the clear needle from EIS parts. The center was not polished
like the original. I used Mothers to polish it up.
The center cover plate needed refinishing. The paint I used was KRYLON
ultra flat non-reflective camouflage. The color was crazy close.
Chrome bevel was rough but cleaned up nicely.
Two of the three rubber seals were surprisingly supple.
A paper gasket and one rubber seal painted dove blue needs to be replaced.
The first gasket in the bezel was a split gasket.
Next is the large round gasket that hold edge of glass lens.
This ring has two colors. The only visible color when assembled is the inner color. I am still looking to match this color.
Speedo is not completely sealed up. I need to ad color gels, refinish the
outer ring, and put some type of clear coat on clear needle center.
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Nice work and good job showing the process.
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zuggbug
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Great work Brett
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| Great work Brett |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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cool thread, I recently did this with my speedo.
make sure you disassemble the odometer drive and clean/re-lube it.
the 'blue' seal in my speedo was not painted, it was actually a bluish rubber.
I dont think the inner trim bezel is painted two colors, I think that paint may just be discolored? my bezel was a little oxidized making it look sightly different color but it buffed out to a solid color.
the weird material around the turn signal bulb is some kind of material that is actually molded in place and dries hard. your piece is pretty much how they look in all speedos. The later speedos with separate arrows (gels) have a different shaped blob of material that directs the light outwards to the arrows. I accidentally broke mine while I was taking the speedo apart so I made something else up to shield the light.
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Thanks for sharing nice work in the detail.
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| brettsvw wrote: |
The inner area of the ring that shows when assembled, is light brown and does look like it may be discolored.
The outer area of the ring does not get light and is a lighter shade Tan/beige.
Is the center round plate and the ring painted the same color?
It looks to me the the inner round plate has a hit of green in the beige color
and the ring shows no green in the beige color.
One would need to see a NOS speedo to really know the answer to my questions. |
I believe the center round plate and the ring are the same beige color. There is a beige camo color spray paint that is a very close match.
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brettsvw
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The inner area of the ring that shows when assembled, is light brown and does look like it may be discolored.
The outer area of the ring does not get light and is a lighter shade Tan/beige.
Is the center round plate and the ring painted the same color?
It looks to me the the inner round plate has a hit of green in the beige color
and the ring shows no green in the beige color.
One would need to see a NOS speedo to really know the answer to my questions. |
I believe the center round plate and the ring are the same beige color. There is a beige camo color spray paint that is a very close match. |
This is the paint I used, So close I could not see a difference in the center cover plate.
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Since you have it blown COMPLETELY apart, I would suggest spraying the inside of the case with chrome paint. I did that on mine when I rebuilt it and was amazed at how well it reflects the meager light from those tiny bulbs. Literally like night and day.
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looks like your brass gear has some wear just like mine did from spinning the speedo with sticky old grease.
also, in regards to the chrome spray paint..I would suggest not using it? When I rebuilt my speedo I was actually disappointed with how much light shone through the WolfsburgWest repop gels when using 12V bulbs and a new wiring harness. The WW gels are much more transparent than the original (or the originals are just cooked with age).
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also, in regards to the chrome spray paint..I would suggest not using it? When I rebuilt my speedo I was actually disappointed with how much light shone through the WolfsburgWest repop gels when using 12V bulbs and a new wiring harness. The WW gels are much more transparent than the original (or the originals are just cooked with age). |
The bulbs behind the gels are in sockets and don't reflect within the case of the speedo. I'm talking about the two bulbs which illuminate the inside of the case and shine onto the face of the speedo. the paint really increases the brightness of the speedo face at night.
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I ordered the 12volt bulbs from WW, but I think I want to go with LEDs
Do LEDs produce less heat than the incandescent bulbs?
The middle bulb is the original 6volt.
For reassembly, I just reversed direction.
Insert c-washer into groove on shaft under large round disc and push shaft
back till it stops.
Install round bezel with concave edge side down.
Clean dirty grease from other gears, replace with new grease.
You can see how dirty old grease was on rag.
It looks like the gear backlash can be set with and adjustable slide held by a
set screw.
I guessed at the backlash setting pushing tight and backing off just enough
for the gears not to touch.
Any input here would appreciated.
I want to keep my speedo stock, so I cleaned and buffed inside of housing before
assembly.
I am not completely sealing my speedo yet because I'm sure about the tape or the gear backlash setting.
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you've done everything the same as I did, with regards to the tape and backlash setting, and I have about 2500 miles on my speedo now with flawless operation. Longevity of the tape and gels? who knows. But, the tape and gels are only subject to heat from the bulbs for very short periods of time..my guess is they will last quite a while?
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great work as usual Brett
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